[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by ianch99

Seph, you "regret" the civilian death toll yet you sanction it? BTW, I am ignoring nothing here: you believe it seems that the "barbarity of Hamas" validates the killing of 1000's of children and the destruction of whole swathes of urban Gaza. I do not.

I agree with you regards the Ultra Zionists. They are the real issue here. If they, and Likud, could be side-lined and a more centralist government elected in Israel, there could be a process where the 2 State solution aligned with the Pre-1967 war borders, could be resurrected. Only by sponsoring the moderate Palestinians and delivering a Palestinian state, can extremists like Hamas finally be neutralised.

As you say, the biggest obstacle to this are the hard-line minorities in Israel, religious and otherwise.

Seph, you "regret" the civilian death toll yet you sanction it? BTW, I am ignoring nothing here: you believe it seems that the "barbarity of Hamas" validates the killing of 1000's of children and the destruction of whole swathes of urban Gaza. I do not.

I sanction nothing. I merely accept that Israel had to engage in war with Hamas in order to eliminate those barbarians.

The rest of paragraph is meaningless rhetoric. It goes nowhere, proposes no course of action that Israel should have taken and concurs with my regret that Palestinian civilians have died in large numbers.

Come on - propose something positive and doable on Israel's part.