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Old 10-06-2022, 20:52   #2730
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Re: Partygate & Beergate discussion

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but of course the biggest liar in uk as never done anything wrong once according to you OB and how many time did he change his story about all the parties they had
Well, he’s only received a fine for a cake ambush between meetings. Go figure.

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Watched some of the BBCQT from true blue Dorking and most of the audience replies were savage. The Tories are unravelling in front of our eyes. They just don't get the mood of the average "honest" Tory voter.
OMG! BBCQT! I’d love to hear your definition of objective!

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Maybe the situation is getting to the point that we need a sort of "war footing" coalition government so the politicos stop their silly point scoring and work together to solve what looks like a really hard time coming.
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Plus even if the politicians did get together and come up with a brilliant and workable plan the civil servants who would implement it would likely mess it up by creating a "committee for the implementation of the brilliant and workable plan" who would suck up all the resource and time.
Your point being…?

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This Government was elected on the back of stoking division - why waste a winning formula when you haven't even fully played the culture war cards.
Actually, this government was elected on the basis that it was the only government that would actually deliver what they wanted (ie Brexit).

Now, you may personally think that Brexit is not the right course for this country, but it was the democratic decision. You need to swallow that.

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The problem with that is obtaining agreement among the parties as to what is the basis for the "war footing". You and I know what's wrong, but even we would be hard pressed to define this in terms of "war footing" not to mention how this would actually resolve/solve matters.

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Yes, the Conservative brand is becoming contaminated by Boris and his cabinet cronies.

I got this email from Boris after he got away with his career:



To call it "content free" would insult all other documents that were content free!

I've highlighted just one paragraph - "the people's priorities". Very close to the top, if not at the top are:

1. Restoration of face-to-face doctor's appointments - at least next day;

2. Proper relief from the cost-of-living crisis - like temporary removal of VAT from fuel prices. The mentioned £37 billion says nothing as to its adequacy (which it won't be).

3. Self-sufficiency on power and food (so far as is possible) instead of the stupid "wilding" policy and not joining up power generation with electric cars (never mind the Victorian terraced streets).

By all means support Ukraine, but do not hold it up as a Conservative triumph; do not claim to be anywhere near fixing social care.

By now, the levelling up policy should have been formed and its basis announced. It's pie in the sky, along with Housing Benefit paying for the right-to-buy mortgage!

Jeez.

This is getting silly now. You completely ignore the dreadful situation we have faced with Covid and the Ukraine situation. You can see the problem, so please, just acknowledge it! Clear that blind spot.

The manifesto was delayed for legitimate reasons. Judge Boris when his time is up, and bear in mind the problems he has been up against.

The manifesto is now being relaunched, so be patient.
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