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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
The government have been acting on the advice of the scientists throughout. Had they not done so, you would have been the first to criticise.
Where do you think the phrase 'herd immunity' came from? The government didn't make it up. Had Labour been in government and done exactly the same things, you would be full of praise, no doubt.
Criticism is all very well when deserved, but criticism for the sake of it is not cricket, old chap.
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1) I know where herd immunity comes from, so no need to patronise. Interestingly the scientists were the first to say allow herd immunity and then quickly backed out of that when they saw the projected deaths for allowing that method to continue.
2) I'm not a historical labour voter or supporter, You don't know me well enough to make that assumption So, sssshhhhh
Criticisms are justified at both the scientists AND the government for the way that the pandemic has been handled in this country.
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Originally Posted by Russ
The government may well be “acting” on the advice of the scientists, that does not necessarily mean they are doing as the scientists say. The difference is in the clever wording.
I’m not saying they’re ignoring scientists but there’s no doubt this government (as likely with any) is “following” whatever advice makes them look like they’ve been “successful”.
And now we have the highest death toll in Europe. So not really a success in my opinion.
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Quite.
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Originally Posted by Chris
So the absurdity of assuming that geography is irrelevant goes on.
The variables at play here are staggering in their complexity. Population size, mobility and age are major factors. The balance of the domestic economy, its manufacturing capacity and adaptability are also relevant. Whether or not you have a significant first or second generation immigrant population comes into it, as does whether any of your airports are major international hubs. What international business is done in a country and the amount of international travel that prompts, and how wealthy, in global terms, your population is, also feeding into the international travel statistics - these are also significant. And, of course, the tactics and timing deployed against the virus by the authorities. Which, tediously, seems to be the only variable anyone here wants to obsess over.
Geography, people. Get a map out and have a look. This country is literally at the middle of the fecking world. If you don't think that makes a difference, then there's no hope for any of us, because for us to rebuild our economy once this is over is going to take a lot more creative thinking and adaptability, from every last one of us, than is evident in this discussion.
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So, heres the thing, Whilst what you say holds merit to a degree. The variable that you claim people are obsessing over is the only variable to which we have a degree of control.
it's therefore blatantly bloody obvious, that this is the area that will be focussed on.