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Originally Posted by Damien

The withdrawal agreement is a 'deal' which provides the transition period, covers all the legal stuff involved with that and also has a softer political declaration which gives a direction of travel for the subsequent attempts at a trade deal. The future agreement. It is a deal. It is not the final deal.

Everything else is splitting hairs.

Pushing back on a very bad deal (the WA/Political Declaration) is far from "splitting hairs".


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Originally Posted by ianch99

Just what the Doctor ordered .. sounds familiar?



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I agree the LibDem stunt was just childish however the Brexit Party actions were just disrespectful. If you are paid to do a job, do it or resign. If they had principles, the very least they could do is not go to Strasbourg. Being the hypocrites they are, they take the money and then turn up as a political stunt. Even Sinn Féin have more principles that this lot ..

Also, where are they told to stand for the "country's" national anthem, do you have a link for this? Here's the background on the EU anthem:

https://europa.eu/european-union/abo...bols/anthem_en

What are the values that the European countries share (see the link above)? Where have these been defined?

Common sense tells you what some of them ought to be - democracy, freedom, prosperity and so on.

Bur corruption is not one of the common values; dysfunction (see the current top jobs process for details) is not one of the common values; a CAP designed for France is not one of the common values; a Euro designed for Germany is not one of the common values; federalisation is not one of the common values although it is sold by the likes of Juncker as such.

If the Brexit Party MEPs want to turn their backs on the symbol of pretence that the EU is a benign and benevolent body, then good luck to them.

If the Liberal-Democrats want to emblazon "Bollocks to Brexit" on their backs, then they were made for the undemocratic EU and Bollocks to them when we leave on 31-October.