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Originally Posted by Mythica
AKA, throwing your toys out the pram. Brexit is huge, it's not just as simple as leave or remain. If we are to leave it needs to be done properly.
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I was involved in the last riots in a minor way due to my job and it's not something for the faint hearted, people are fools to even contemplate it, you're out of your depth in no time and being led by events
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
I don't know why you are being so naive. Politics and lies have always gone together.
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So that's reason to allow it to happen is it and no they haven't always gone together either, democracys inventors had a novel way to ensure their politicians remained honest, the state would burn their house down if they were caught telling lies, perhaps we can learn something from our enlightened ancestors
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Originally Posted by ianch99
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They don't want much do they, I see what they're getting, what do we get in return, a part from the chicken? This deal will kill UK farmers, flooded with cheap crap they can't compete with and unable to sell to the EU because our standards have been lowered. Seems like a good way to take back control, surrender your food production to a third party, bozo the failed mayor will probably come out with something pithy like let them eat fish
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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees
Raising genuine concern should not be treat as doom mongering.
Liam Fox, the same Liam Fox who can't get the forty deals he promised in time delivered?
the forty deals that nowhere near completion Liam Fox?
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Be fair he has got the faroe islands in the bag so at least we'll get cheap fish, anyone who fancies anything other than fish for a while might be out of luck though
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Originally Posted by jfman
My wisdom tells me it’s impossible for you to speak for 17 million people, and that despite it not being stated on the ballot paper you know exactly what they understood ‘leaving’ to mean.
If ‘leave’ means one thing, and one only, why does the Theresa May deal not fit the bill for some yet it does for others? Why does it not fit Liam Fox’s easiest deal in history? Leave has a very broad range of outcomes that all fall under one umbrella.
You understand what you want from leaving. That’s not the same as everyone understanding, let alone agreeing over it.
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There was a leave. EU leaflet that came through my door saying they'd negotiate a better deal before triggering article 50, obviously it was only an aspiration as we all now know they didn't have the power to offer anything more than dreams despite their grandiose claims, so even their vision of leaving wasn't one of walking away without a deal and therefore different to w hats been stated here and they were the ones campaigning
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
Another one of Margaret Thatcher's legacies dead and buried; the reputation of the Conservatives for fiscal responsibility.
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John major did for that...
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Originally Posted by Hom3r
Here's a hyperthetical question.
The anti Brixit MPS force another referemdum and there are 3 option on the ballot paper and the results are as follow
35% - Remain in the UK.
33% - Leave with no deal
32% - Leave with Mays deal
Would the Remainers say they've won?
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Leaving the UK is now an option, I'd vote for that, bye Scotland