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Old 02-12-2016, 09:03   #2910
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread

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Originally Posted by Chris View Post
I'd be careful about reading too much into this by election result. That constituency was 70% remain last June, it was 49.5% Lib Dem last night and in any case Heathrow airport was also a significant issue. This wasn't a Richmond re-run of the referendum and it doesn't critically alter the parliamentary maths, which were slightly awkward already.
Surely it alters the maths in Parliament by replacing a pro-Brexit voice with an anti-Brexit voice? Granted that Zac was no longer a Conservative MP so her party's loss occurred when he resigned.

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"Hard Brexit" and "Soft Brexit" are the imaginings of remainers trying to frame a debate, they are not a serious or useful means of describing the decision making process of people who voted leave.
You'll see this terminology used across the whole political spectrum as it aids understanding of a complex problem. Vote Leave newspapers like the Daily Telegraph have been particularly keen to adopt it and explain what it means. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016...d-soft-brexit/

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Personally, as someone who voted leave, I'm a little tired of remainers constantly claiming they know leavers' reasons for their vote better than they do themselves. Laurie Penney tried it on on Question Time last night and quite rightly got absolutely savaged for it.
On this issue it's a simple case of maths - we're talking about everyone who voted in the referendum not just the 51.9%.
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