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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet
What's unpatriotic about not wanting the country to be poorer? You're talking about your own costs, what about those who may suffer during this five years of rough times who can't afford to lose half a million quid?
We pool our sovereignty in various ways with various bodies, from the WTO down.
The idea that one man can tell the UK what to do is absurd. Juncker has no power over the UK at all. Without the agreement of Council of Ministers and EU Parliament nothing is imposed on the UK.
For your comments on sovereignty and patriotism it's pretty obvious you have a strong dislike of the EU, describing its influence as malevolent, and the claim we were going to be consumed somehow is paranoia.
Joining a European superstate would've required a referendum. We rejected the Euro and Schengen, why would we suddenly agree to become part of a federalist EU?
Other EU nations voluntarily joined the Euro and Schengen, fully aware it was part of an ongoing integration process. We abstained, and any attempts to cede further powers require a referendum.
It was accepted that ever-closer union didn't suit the UK before this referendum. Obviously not an issue now.
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We co-founded the European Court of Human Rights and are subject to it. We are subject to, amongst other things, the International Criminal Court.
Your concept of patriotism is a fantasy that hasn't existed in decades.
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The reason that it hasn't existed for decades is because of the influence of the EU and it's left wing fellow travellers.
I'm amazed that you still can't see that the ultimate aim of the EU is to do away with the concept of national sovereignty and the implemantation of complete fiscal and political control of all the constituent countries.....at which point they cease to exist as indendent entities. Voting to stay in the EU, knowing all that, is an unpatriotic act.
