Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramrod
Not everyone. However, what do you think of the many I spoke to who were voting in purely because brexit would put their job at risk or cost them money?
What about those who thought that it was a good thing the the european court had precedence over our high court? How about those who were unconcerned that Junker could basically tell the UK what to do and we had to do it. Unpatriotic?
|
What's unpatriotic about not wanting the country to be poorer? You're talking about your own costs, what about those who may suffer during this five years of rough times who can't afford to lose half a million quid?
We pool our sovereignty in various ways with various bodies, from the WTO down.
The idea that one man can tell the UK what to do is absurd. Juncker has no power over the UK at all. Without the agreement of Council of Ministers and EU Parliament nothing is imposed on the UK.
For your comments on sovereignty and patriotism it's pretty obvious you have a strong dislike of the EU, describing its influence as malevolent, and the claim we were going to be consumed somehow is paranoia.
Joining a European superstate would've required a referendum. We rejected the Euro and Schengen, why would we suddenly agree to become part of a federalist EU?
Other EU nations voluntarily joined the Euro and Schengen, fully aware it was part of an ongoing integration process. We abstained, and any attempts to cede further powers require a referendum.
It was accepted that ever-closer union didn't suit the UK before this referendum. Obviously not an issue now.
---------- Post added at 12:06 ---------- Previous post was at 12:03 ----------
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ramrod
What about those who thought that it was a good thing the the european court had precedence over our high court? Unpatriotic?
|
We co-founded the European Court of Human Rights and are subject to it. We are subject to, amongst other things, the International Criminal Court.
Your concept of patriotism is a fantasy that hasn't existed in decades.