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Old 11-07-2016, 10:52   #1162
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Re: Post-Brexit Thread

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Originally Posted by martyh View Post
The country voted to leave the EU and in doing so also voted to leave the single market and give up EU citizenship ,i think we should stop grasping at the single market straw

Unless the EU changes and gets rid of freedom of movement and a host of the other 'benefits' of the free market we shouldn't even try to stay in it ,it's just not worth it .Besides given the fragility of all the European economies do we really want to remain so closely tied to them and is the free ,market even working as it's supposed to .
As far as I'm aware the country voted to leave the EU, which means giving up EU citizenship. There was nothing on the ballot paper about the single market.

According to all the polling I've seen EEA membership would have majority support from the country. Basically all who voted to remain would go along with it, and those who voted leave for sovereignty reasons rather than immigration.

We are closely tied to the EU economically whether we like it or not and short of committing economic suicide disentangling ourselves from it will take decades.

However I think you're spot on that we probably won't be in the EEA. People would rather be poorer, at least in the short and medium term, than have free movement.

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In other news looks like the EU owe us a favour. We seem to have shored up support for it in a number of member states.

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This has potential.

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The governance of England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland should be reinvented within a new voluntary union in a bid to save the UK from disintegration, an independent all-party group of experts will argue this week.

The Constitution Reform Group, convened by former Conservative cabinet minister Lord Salisbury, is to make the the case for radical constitutional change in the UK by claiming the need has been boosted by the vote to leave the European Union.

Their proposals say the existing union should be replaced with fully devolved government in each part of the UK, with each given full sovereignty over its own affairs. The Westminster parliament, the group says, should then be reduced to 146 MPs. The individual nations and regions of the UK would then be encouraged to pool sovereignty to cover the matters they wish to be dealt with on a shared basis.
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