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Originally Posted by Damien
Would Parliament give them a binding vote again? If they do I think Scotland leaves. The only issue is how do they get back into the EU? What do they do about currency?
Worst case scenario for us is they become the accessor state. Basically Scotland retains our membership. Not sure how feasible that is. If the EU wanted to make it happen though they would find a way.
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On your first question, I don't know. If the SNP made enough noise, then they could get another vote and I agree with you, I think they'll go this time. Whether we like it or not, England and Scotland have voted in two very different ways, in effect starting a divorce process....
On the EU and currency issues, it could go two ways:
1. Scotland votes to leave the UK and Scotland becomes a independent nation. Under this scenario, Scotland would have to negotiate to join the EU from scratch. Until then they would use the pound but I doubt the Bank of England would underwrite that.... so could get very messy. And besides, Spain has already indicated it would veto any attempt by Scotland to join the EU as its worried about its own backyard and regions breaking away.
2. The UK (as a whole) agrees to split into two parts, like Czechoslovakia did. Scotland being one part and the rest of the UK being the other part. Under this scenario, as the old UK was still in the EU, Scotland would state that they wished to remain in the EU. Whether the rest of the UK agrees to this is another matter entirely. How amenable England would be to Scotland in the event of a breakup of the UK is key? Zero, I think.
They would have to adopt the euro as again the BoE would not underwrite Scottish debt.
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Originally Posted by nashville
We do not all want to leave the United Kingdom , this annoys me when we get a comment saying" Let them go" I love being part of Britain and want to stay like this, But Nicola and her hunt to go down in history as the one to break us up, just like Salmond, really gets me angry. She should be trying to make the U K stronger and work together for us all. I have family living in London and we should all be as one,. I am not a hateful person but I hate the S N P for their search for power,
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I hate Tony Blair. When he created the devolved institutions he was warned it would lead to the eventual breakup of the country.
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Originally Posted by Damien
I think we need to take the threat seriously. We almost got burnt last time by underestimating the support for independence and this time the message will be far more potent. Serious Unionists from last time are currently supportive of the idea at the moment.
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Again, agree.
All the EU stuff would be eclipsed in a second by Scotland going independent. Imagine the mess of de tangling a country that has been politically united for 300 years and culturally for far longer.
When has a divorce ever been pleasant?
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Originally Posted by RBMark
An Scotland only had a 60% turnout, so only 60% of those that voted wanted to remain 40% of those that voted wanted to leave, and 40% of the 100% eligible to vote didn't care if they leave or remain so didn't bother to vote.
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Doesn't matter about those who don't vote. It's what the result of those that do vote which matters.