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Old 16-06-2016, 08:15   #23
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Re: Brexit and our government - a personal story

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Originally Posted by jackjone View Post
.. That is why I entitled my posting 'a personal story and why I am voting Leave'! This is the issue that affects me personally. There is simply too much propaganda by the remain team.

Do you really think we would go back to the dark ages if we leave Europe? If workers rights were not respected the government in question would not be re-elected. We would still have unions in place. Apparently it is all doom and gloom if we leave Europe. My parents generation had workers rights and they seemed pretty happy pre-Europe. Everything just isn't going to stop. I am sure if you were in a similar situation, you would feel the same.

You can't get social housing, you can't get your school of choice, you can't get a doctors appointment for nearly 2 weeks, you have to wait long periods for surgery, your elderly parent is ill and has to lie in a hospital corridor, I could go on.

We need British rights. We are an island and our infrastructure can only take so much.

You mention environmental issues, the Kyoto protocol springs to mind, do you really think the UK would not have signed up if we weren't in the EU? You are basically saying that we don't have any weight in the world and we cannot make our own decisions.

Listen to the arguments by Nigel Farage. Every debate I watch encourages me more and more to vote leave. There are many valid points. The remain team have already shown themselves up by instigating personal attacks on the leave team. They continue to do so. mmm lets float down the Thames with a bunch of rich idiots on a large boat!

You mention Scotland's unemployment rates. I am Scottish. There are many more 'economic' migrants who join their already set up communities in England. Look at London, Greater Manchester, Luton, Birmingham, Peterborough etc. Scotland does not have the level of migrants England does so your point isn't really valid. Scotland also has a lower population so take jobs per capita - of course employment rates will be lower. I wish I could return to Scotland as there would be a job available for me to go to and I would receive a decent wage. I worked in another large city a couple of hours from here (and not it wasn't London) and my salary was a minimum of a third higher for the same job in Peterborough. So yes, 'economic' migrants are bringing salaries down. And who pays, we do. You do realise the low wages are subsidised by the tax payer by way of tax credits, housing benefit, child allowance etc. I thought I would reiterate that. You do realise that the spouses of service personnel for instance who are unable to claim benefits aren't detailed in unemployment figures as we are in effect invisible!

You talk of workers rights. Yes, it has its pros but it also has its cons. It is so difficult for companies to get rid of lazy or unsuitable employees. A perfect example would be government staff. My experience with the jobcentre and DWP has been atrocious, I have never had to deal with such a group of arrogant, rude, unhelpful and stupid people in all my life. They just cannot be sacked!! So they have their rights respected, what about mine? Europe doesn't come to my aid when my human rights are neglected.

On top of that political correctness has gone mad. Read the attached, this is what Europe has contributed to...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/p...rrectness.html

Enjoy watching Britain deteriorate if you vote remain. Turkey, Serbia, Albania, Montenegro and Macedonia WILL have free access to the UK. We will be opening the floodgates to terrorism, crime etc. You do know that Isis sells smuggled oil to Turkey and Iraqi Kurds.. do you really want to open up our borders to a country who fund ISIS. Who will come into our country,what will their intentions be? Will you put your family or next generation at risk? Yes it is your choice. I would take the risk of a little less annual leave for a safer and more prosperous Britain.

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I totally agree with you. I have had to deal with the DWP over the last few months and I am close to breaking point!! I read all these stories of people being turned down for Employment Support Allowance, disability benefits etc. and the negative impact it has had - depression, suicide and death in some cases. This government needs to go and yes, we do need to take Britain back!

Remember and vote in black ink!!
wow that post is so small minded and sounds like something a UKIPer would say

The only reason Britain is deteriating is because of our Government. The EU at least keeps them from 100% destroying us.

Also we have British rights, backed up by the EU. We have workers rights the EU improved them.

I have a good job now but went through a couple of bad years recently and got all the help I needed. I work in a place that employs British people, Irish people, Polish people, Indian People, Spanish people French people who all live here and are entitled to have jobs to earn money for them and their families.

You make it sound like they shouldn't work and should all be sent home so British folk can have the jobs and social housing. That is so so wrong.

We should be proud as Brits that we are a welcoming multi cultural society who welcomes others when they have no one to turn to and no where else to go. A place where people should feel happy.

Next you'll be saying the earth is flat.

Also tin hat time. Vote using the wax pencils they give you. They can't be erased and should your ballot paper get wet the vote will still be there unlike a black pen!

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A vote to remain is a vote down the drain
No it's not. Not voting is a wasted vote. Voting for what you think is right no matter the outcome is always important.
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