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Originally Posted by Damien
So what? As long as they're not harming anyone then good luck to them. Again people being different is far more interesting than people being the same.
Our culture is not weak enough to get overridden so easily. Harry Potter is one of the most successful books and film franchises in the world, from a British writer, continuing a British trend of excellent children's writing. We still produce many of the world's biggest pop and rock acts. We have many excellent actors and actresses working on international franchises. The newest Star Wars has two British actors in the lead roles (one of whom is the British born son of Nigerian immigrants)! and it's filmed here! with a largely British production staff!
We continue to have a massively successful film, music and literature industry which is only made more impressive by our relatively small size.
I do not want to live in a Britain where I have to travel more than 5 miles to find a chicken madras.
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I think for people who obey the law, pay their taxes, speak English etc, then I would be uneasy about any change of policy against them.
But taking Norman Tebbit's cricket test, as an example and I don't know how old you are or if you know what I am talking about. (Norman Tebbit, a former Conservative politician, questioned the allegiances of people from foreign origins if they support a country other than a UK one at cricket.)
If someone does support a sports team (assuming they follow sports at all) and its not a UK one, how can we truly say that person is British and integrated into our society when they support a foreign team?
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Originally Posted by ianch99
Should the British "ex-pats" be chucked out of Spain? Your logic would say yes?
There is a whiff of double standards here: when the British are abroad everyone should speak English but when people come here, different matter it seems .]
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This is a very good example, actually.
I once considered living in Spain, I love it there, speak a bit of the language and like many aspects of the culture, but not all.... and one aspect I especially didn't like was the British ex pats.
Many of the ex pats do not integrate and make it very clear they will never integrate into Spanish society. You see British/English flags everywhere in some parts of Spain (Benidorm and the like) and its horrible. The Germans are no better in "their" areas.
If I were the Spanish, I would throw them out, yes. If you live in someone's else's country you live by their standards and customs.
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Originally Posted by Osem
Leaving the EU is hardly likely to cause that to happen. 
The scale of the numbers and the pressure that puts on society is what's creating the issue, making the influx so much more noticeable and making it easier for migrants not to integrate. The EU is only part of that issue however. |
It's not just purely numbers though.
It is whether people who come from a different country, can integrate into our society. In many cases the answer is yes, but more worrying, it is the children and grandchildren of those immigrants who are born here is where the problems lie. This has been brewing for a very long time.
So, it's not just a numbers issue, as you say though greater numbers to highlight things more.