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Old 15-02-2016, 18:11   #414
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re: [Update] The UK votes to leave the EU

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Negotiations over the UK's EU reform demands are at a "critical moment" and the risk of break-up "is real", EU Council president Donald Tusk has said.

He was speaking after holding talks with the Romanian and French presidents ahead of this week's crunch EU summit.

Mr Tusk, who is overseeing the negotiation, urged European leaders to handle the situation "with care".
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politic...endum-35583140

They're understandably protective of their Euro-gravy train 'c u m'* train wreck.


(* Note to swear filter - preposition used to ​join two ​nouns, ​showing that a ​person or thing does two things or has two ​purposes...)

http://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/***

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Originally Posted by ntluser View Post
It's interesting how others have responded to avoid the Brexit now that David Cameron has started his "renegotiations" with the EU.

Barack Obama wants a strong UK in a strong EU.

The Russians, it seems, would view a Brexit as a sign of weakness.

One member of the German government has threatened a trade war if the UK leaves the EU.

David Cameron tells us that there is a lot of willingness to try to meet the UK's limited "demands" but despite this it always seems to lead to a further watering down of the original limited proposals.

Before long the agreed proposals will not be worth having as so many are falling back on agreement being required from other EU leaders. The Conservatives are slowly selling out our sovereignty and capacity for independence. I could not imagine that happening under Margaret Thatcher.

You do wonder what happened to the Brtish Lion which forged the Commonwealth, trading with countries all over the world.

Our current politicians sadly do not seem to have the same capacity for independent thought and action as some of our courageous, pioneering forebears. Strange really given that the Conservatives used to be known as the Reforming Tories in the days when reform meant REAL reform and not some con being perpetrated on the British public.

The UK could survive outside the EU but I do wonder what would happen to the Euro if we left. What would the EU do with a Brexit black hole in its finances? Perhaps they would increase the contributions of other EU contributors. Or perhaps they would spend less.

The sad truth is that the EU want to keep us in because of our large contribution to the EU budget,money that could be better spent on the infrastructure of the UK.

Maybe then we can make a real effort to save our ailing industries rather than promising support which turns out to be financial support to find a new job elsewhere.

It will be very interesting to see what the EU leaders make of David Cameron's proposals though I can't help wishing that the other leaders would have the guts to reject them.
That'd depend on the industries - sadly, some of them just aren't competitive anymore and even if we could subsidise them it'd be money down the drain. Better to create new and sustainable jobs where that's possible.
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