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Old 03-03-2014, 17:10   #156
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Re: Ukraine on the verge of civil war!

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Originally Posted by Damien View Post
Don't surrender. Let Russians make the assault if they want. Russia probably getting upset that Ukrainian forces haven't attacked them yet and are getting itch feet waiting for a pretext.

Hopefully this a bluff.

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Obama needs to do something already.
The soldiers in the compounds will have been talking through the fence with the Russians outside. You could see as much in the BBC's report last night.

They will have been told what's afoot, they will have been told they can stay in their compounds and keep their honour, and as long as nobody starts waving a rifle about, the Russians will break the gates down early tomorrow morning and 'deport' the soldiers to Kiev.

We are witnessing the partition of Ukraine. It won't end in Crimea but I don't believe even Putin is mad enough to take it all the way to Kiev. He wants a Russian-friendly satellite on the Black Sea because otherwise his navy is screwed. A Russian-friendly East Ukraine, or more likely a series of autonomous republics, like Crimea, will give him that. The Westerners can then get on with cosying up to the EU.

It's just good old fashioned Soviet spheres of influence, deployed by a good old fashioned Soviet who doesn't know how to do international affairs in any other way.

And, to be frank, despite being disappointed in the mad dog way he's gone about it, I can entirely see why he would want to fix things in his back yard like this.
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