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Originally Posted by danielf

In fairness, according to that link, nearly half the money (£74bn) is state pensions, which while technically a benefit, is not something that should be included in the payments to 'bone-idle workshy scrounging layabouts', and other targets for cuts.

Well yes that's obvious from the information I linked to. In fairness I wasn't making any point about the proportions within the overall budget just making the point that the DWP is the largest department by spending and is therefore likely to come under scrutiny. The pensioners you mentioned already have (granny tax) so is it unthinkable that the remaining areas within the whole dept. would?

We're all paying in one way or another for what's been allowed to happen. Whether what we're paying is 'enough' or 'fair' clearly depends on which group we fall into - nobody wants their lifestyle to be hit do they.

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Originally Posted by RizzyKing

Interesting read for some of you http://helpmeinvestigate.com/welfare...ding-breakdown So the sick\disabled and unemployed are two of the lowest cost groups and yet seem to merit more severe treatment. Wouldn't be because they are the two groups least able to actually do anything about it would it, sorry i mean accusing our government of hitting those unable to hit back how could i. Oh and another one for those convinced benefit fraud is the culprit for our woes here http://citywire.co.uk/money/tax-evas...-fraud/a378274.

It's not new is it. VAT hits the poor and vulnerable disproportionatey why no outcry about that?

Who is it that thinks benefit fraud is responsible for all our woes? Is HMG only cutting benefits? Tell that to our armed forces.

By all means be upset by what you feel is the unfair targeting of certain groups but lets not claim nobody else is suffering.