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Old 08-08-2011, 12:31   #134
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Re: Riots in Tottenham

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Originally Posted by Damien View Post
Why can't it be both? Rioters are wrong and not to be condoned but there is genuine anger at the police?
It can be both depending on your opinion but for the same people to claim that all this stuff is in some way a measure of support for Duggan at the same time as claiming the trouble's being done by outsiders is nonsense. We're always being told the police don't have a clue what's going on in these 'communities' yet it's apparent that those who speak for the community don't know either.

Was there genuine anger at the shopkeepers, bus drivers, firecrews too? What for? What have they done except trying to serve a 'community' which the 'spokespeople' claim is so deprived.

I've heard quite a few people claiming that Duggan was murdered and using that to justify the rioting. Do they have some proof we don't then? Judge and jury are they? They don't seem to mind circumventing and ignoring the proper legal process when the police are in the dock and it suits their agenda do they? They don't seem to mind jumping to conclusions when it suits their own prejudice. It strikes me that whatever the facts and the final outcome of the official inquiry, these people have already made up their minds and Duggan will be held up as some form of folklore victim whether he was innocent or not. If it doesn't confirm what they believe, the inquiry will be flawed and unfair, a cover-up, biased, too quick, too long or whatever. They're not interested in the truth, they know that if they repeat this sort of stuff long enough and often enough and a sizeable proportion of the community will start to believe it and use it as a perpetual excuse for wrongdoing. What do we do about that?
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