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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet
Would you please read what IPTV actually means and get out of your mind that IPTV involves the Internet. Ignore the tabloid and tech tabloid that feature articles written by clueless journos.
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Vm themselves said they were launching iptv and that it was going to revolutionise thier tv service. How is just freeing up space going to revolutionise anything?
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet
We're going around in circles because of your obsession that without TiVo or Internet integration there's no IPTV, this is not true, the IPTV upgrade is to free up space on the cable network for more HD and VoD it's nothing to do with TiVo! You do not need IPTV cable networks to run the TiVo services, they are running perfectly well over SDV and non-SDV CATV networks in the States and the TiVo service is not IPTV.
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Lol i don't have an obsession thanks. I never said without tivo there is no integration at all i just said that tivo is going to be part of it as part of vms new tv service and new delivery system. I am aware you don't need iptv networks to run the tivo service i never said it did. I said that it will be part of what we are getting with the new service. You are taking everything said out of context and twisting words.
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet
Neither you nor I know what Virgin plan to do with the TiVo tie-up so to suggest it won't be TiVo Premiere rebranded and built into a VM branded box is an assumption. Indeed unless Virgin plan on giving every subscriber a TiVo equipped PVR, 4 million of them, it would seem quite likely that many customers will be using legacy STBs which are happily tuning in to IPTV streams.
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No we don't know but we do know that we won't be getting their premiere boxes rebranded or not. VM have said already that they won't be using the boxes but using their own. Some are suggested it may work on our existing boxes, some are suggesting that we will need new boxes. But
VM have said they won't be using Tivo boxes.
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet
My point is they are very separate things. Talking about them like they are the same is just wrong. People will not suddenly wake up one morning to find their area has been upgraded to IPTV and they suddenly are able to stream off YouTube and their STB has grown a hard drive and is running a Tivo-based operating system.
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They may be very different things but it's all going to be part of the same thing that VM are launching this year. VM are launching a new tv service which they say will be iptv and VM will be using Tivo software.
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet
With the appropriate STB one could get exactly the same experience on a non-IPTV network - build a cable modem into the STB and use that for the internet content, which is likely what Virgin will do, and the job's done.
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Vm have said no such thing though, they have't said they will be rolling it out nation wide. Even if they did it will be a poorer service seeing as you have exchange distance issues. VM are in no rush to offer their new service to offnet customers which is what i said in the first place.
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Originally Posted by Ignitionnet
It's actually not unlikely that Virgin will release a home gateway box - a single STB which combines TV, PVR, DOCSIS 3 Cable Modem, Wireless Router all in one. Having a single cable modem for both video and internet access won't be a major problem, bandwidth can be guaranteed for video streams in between the uBR / CMTS and the cable modem using assured information rate service flows while using the same equipment as the existing internet services in the headend.  |
That just goes right over my head infact most of this does.
I'm going to leave it here, you're obviously more switched on than i am. All i am going to say is that they won't be giving their new tv service to offnet customers anytime soon which is what i said in the first place.