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Old 12-02-2010, 17:10   #19
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Re: BT Open Up Ducting - Look To Use Virgin's

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Originally Posted by cabletel View Post
Understand BT being forced to open up their ducting and network (LLU) to competitors as you must remember their network was built with PUBLIC money back when BT were nationalised and had the monopoly.
This network was, however, purchased with private money. The reason for the required unbundling of loops is due to BT's natural monopoly and ensuring they can't abuse it with vertical integration not to do with where the money comes from to build.

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But NTL/VM spent an absolute fortune (almost putting themselves under) digging up those streets, laying those cables and buying competitors existing cable networks in order to produce a solid Fibre network and gain an advantage. I don't see why they should be under any obligation to open up their network to competitors.
Not really anyone's problem apart from their own that ntl / Telewest massively overspent and rushed their expansions. They are now profitable and have assets which are desirable to others.

BT have, since privatisation, spent tens of billions on broadband networks, core network upgrades, etc and continue to do so while being required to open up these new networks to competitors. By the above argument they should only be required to open up what was there before privatisation. It's not an argument that works and cable has had their own monopoly quite long enough now.

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The BT network covers more areas and includes those areas that have cable access so i dont see why VM ducting is necessary to use. I think the government should simply open access to BT ducting and give some sort of incentive to companys to lay further ducting/expand their network to areas where as yet access to broadband is unavailable or limited to particularly low speeds.
As per my previous post:

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There will be areas covered by telegraph poles by BT but which will have VM ducting present. There will also be BT ducting that is full up while there may be capacity within the VM duct


---------- Post added at 17:10 ---------- Previous post was at 17:08 ----------

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Originally Posted by Turkey Machine View Post
If VM can use BT ducting to provide an on-net cable service, power to the people! We've been bitching and moaning around here that we can't get cable, and BT is now welcoming with open arms other providers to use their free (as in, not used) space.
If VM even contemplate putting coax into BT's ducting they deserve a slap
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