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Originally Posted by Portly_Giraffe

Looking at the IP addresses of the various domains, I would conclude that BT are using the long bank holiday weekend to rehost the Phorm service at Gyron Internet in London E14 on 89.145.112.31 and 89.145.112.32 with backup for the most service-critical function (OIX) at Fasthosts on 88.208.250.85.

Any comments?

It certainly suggests that substantial parts of any Phorm system implemented by BT would not be hosted directly by BT though of course this may be consistent with the published design saved in a message a few thousand back from here.

Websites on one Gyron Internet server at 89.145.112.31:
blog.phorm.com
blog.webwise.com

Websites on two Gyron Internet servers at 89.145.112.31 and 89.145.112.32:
www.121media.com
www.openinternetalliance.com
www.openinternetalliance.net
www.openinternetalliance.org
www.phorm.com
www.webwise.com
www.webwise.net
www.webwise.org
www.youcanoptout.com
www.youcanoptout.net
www.youcanoptout.org

Websites which now appear to be on two Gyron Internet servers at 89.145.112.31 and 89.145.112.32 and one Fasthost server at 88.208.250.85:
www.oix.com
www.oix.net
(www.oix.org is already taken by a non-Phorm company)
www.openinternetexchange.com
www.openinternetexchange.net
www.openinternetexchange.org

Remaining at Fasthosts in Gloucester UK:
webwise.bt.com - maybe to be abandoned?
www.tecreports.co.uk - unrelated to Phorm

Remaining at ThePlanet.com in Houston TX:
www.webwise.bt.com
youcanoptin.com
youcanoptin.net
youcanoptin.org

Please correct this if I've misinterpreted anything.

It's strange that the youcanoptin domains have been left in the US while the youcanoptout domains have been moved to what appears to be the production site. Maybe the ICO should give a view?

If someone is willing to put together the technical IP stuff I am quite willing to turn it into an ICO complaint as a BT customer- based largely on the current BT Webwise Contact Us page.

I can handle the actual ICO complaint, but I need someone to put together the "technical" side of the complaint using that IP data.

Something along the lines of "when I go to my ISP page BT Webwise, to find out more about their Webwise service I am asked to fill out a Contact Form, and provide the following data...... I have been investigating the location of these pages and it turns out that.... (technical IP data).

Obviously some of these locations are outside the BT network, and some appear to be outside the UK. Also they do not appear to be under the control of BT Retail, who are responsible for my ISP. I am unaware of having been asked to agree to any changed privacy policy by my ISP since these pages became live. The BT privacy policy currently reads as follows....

I believe that my personal data is not being handled according the requirements of the DPA......"
copy to ICO and copy to BT Retail legal department?

Any further action presumably has to wait until someone has actually got onto Webwise trial.

I am also willing to put a single post, carefully worded to try and catch a few BT phish over on Beta forums who might be willing to help with the Webwise trial - same post on each of the help/support forums. I've done something similar before and I think it is time to do it again - there are about a dozen or so forums I could put a post into. Again all I need is a contact point for any interested BT customers to go to - not me because of other commitments coming up.