[the-cable-guy]

Originally Posted by arcamalpha2004

Why do people buy cheap cigs and beer?
Because it is cheaper
Should they now be called low lifes?
Think about it, that money in tax evasion could be spent to treat sick people in our hospitals.
VM should get their act together instead of moaning about it.
People who call people low lifes should look at themselves very hard.

yes ppl should.

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Originally Posted by Stuart C

No: When VM change their rules, you are perfectly entitled to cancel your subscription by giving 30 days notice. Check the terms and conditions of service, or, indeed, contracts law..




Actually, I suspect you'll find it's Sky who took Sky 1..

The fact that a company raises it's prices or has problems with it's services is no justification for theft. Would you go into a shop, pick up an item where the price has gone up in the last week, go to the shop assistant and pay what you would have paid last week? Probably not. If you did, you'd be committing theft and would risk police action.

Why is stealing from a service (such as Virgin or BT) any different?

Generally, you have a legal course of action you can take if you have a grievance with a service or company. You can either stay with it, and hope the company is willing/able to fix the problem, or you can find another provider. That's the beauty of capitalism, choice.

Cloning modems, however you dress it up, is part of the problem, not the solution.

aye

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Originally Posted by GraphiX2004

so when VM basically steals from us giving us restrictions and changing their rules
thats totally fine to be screwed over by the actual company

but when a user decides to do the same back they are low lifes?
and they should be burned in hell... how about having the same feeling towards
companys who go out their way to restrict your service to a stop and still
continue to steal full payments for a service they are advertising which clearly
we are all not getting,

i have the full XL package but i credit the cloners and the people whos
stealing service from VM because VM is stealing our money

They took sky 1 of us all and we are now paying a higher price! work that out

two wrongs dont make a right mate.

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Originally Posted by Saaf_laandon_mo

Are people who pay for cable but download torrents, movies, music blah blah blah lowlife and **** too? What about those who copy music for friends.

Comeon that is a bit OTT, and for 95 percent of us a pretty hypocritical statement to make.

I could use the argument that I pay for expensive CDs because my cable subscription payment friends download music for nothing. Low life? I think not.

agreed.

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Originally Posted by Toto

Russ you kind of beat me too it.but just to add, price rises could be cyclical in that those who steal services are forcing prices up.

I would go as far to say those the majority of cable thefts are by people who won't pay, not can't pay. The worst sort of **** in my opinion.

most ppl who steal cable do it cuz they can & we the paying customers get a poor service cuz of it. im on the dole & if i can pay for my services then anyone can, making excuses is just a cop out to make yourselfs look good.

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Originally Posted by CableBloke

Forget VideoGuard, It's an NDS company and we don't want to give them any more money.

oh brother.