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Originally Posted by zinglebarb
course any old Joe can install windows its all wizard run as any old Joe should be able to install Linux however its what happens next thats the problem.
I spent a lot of time learning what I know and im no No0b however if linux worked out the box with easy to install drivers and run everything I need for day to day computing without having to compile everything then I woudl consider learning other aspects of the system.
Why should I have to read paragraphs of text to install a driver? or a piece of software? no thank you. If linux is ever going to become mainstream it will need to more user friendly if it does not then it wont
one thing I have noticed is when I express my views on Linux I get talked down to by the Linux fanboys something to be honest im not prepared to tolerate
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hopefully not by me zing, i might use both windows and linux, they still dont give me what i want most in my better machine.
even after all this time while their both reasonable OS's for the x86 based hardware, its fast true but the bios, the shells, and the GUI are just not intigrated liek the AMIGA was.
i wonder if the LinuxBios will be the one that finally makes somthing like the amiga firmware options available.
if you never went past games back in the day, then you wont understand what im after, but heres a few SIMPLES things that would help any current x86 hardware today.
power up the amiga and hold down the two mouse buttons and the intigrated GUI pops up with ANY harddrive you happen to have configured to be a boot drive.
you can set any no. of harddrives to be bootable,not just limited to 4 primary drive partitions..... ( i dont count logical drives s their junk, do it real or not at all ).
i did a test once and had something like 12 hd's all bootable and selectable from the built-in GUI mouse menu.
a simple GUI (anything useable , i dont care what, inside linuxBios, cut down rebol might be nice)that works like the amiga firmware GUI, a simple port/rewrite of the amiga shell and/or its kingcon device so the shell apps can be used.
two very simple shell apps that take advantage of the fact the basic GUI exists in the bios and can be used to make very simple but effective end user GUI's, these being requestchoice and requestfile
its works as simple as this:
requestchoice "this is a window name" "1" "2" "3" "0"
puts up the simple GUI window with a title of 'this is a window name'
and 4 mouse clickable buttons , with end one always being the return and quite option.
with these simple basic things, it becames so simple to make GUI front-ends that were controlled from the amiga cli/shell for ANY cli app you care to mention.
sure, the amiga is dead to most, and its underpowered, theres always open AROS for x86, but again let down by no current way to get a good GUI bios etc.....
to this day, it cant be done because theres NO basic GUI code inside the x86 bios that can open to a shell/cli when theres no OS already installed or running from ram.
give me a linuxBios or 3rd party bios that can be installed on todays hardware, thats got
the GUI, the
cli/shell, and the basic
built-in commands to make basic GUI's controlled by scripts and we have the beginnings of something better.
and it seems linuxBios if the tech devs think different for once or look to amiga bios for idea's (see winUAE emulation to try these options), can include all the innovations the amiga bios included and make them available to future generations of x86 and other cpu's, a GUI inside the bios with cli windows/linux/anything you care to mention, linkable emulation can be a very good thing to bring the hardware and software closer together, intigration as it should be...... and dont forget real HAL.
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Originally Posted by CrC-3rr0r
Its falling on deaf ears popper  |
no, i just think zing, and many others perhaps just need a reason and the right livecd to try and give them a salution to their problem, then they will look at linux and whatever else and begin the lerning curve.
in the case of zing, he's hardware interest/invested, so needs good hardware options to make his work and play easyer, harddrive images playing a very big part of his time and effort, Hence the freeNAS and Ghost4Linux might interest him.
given that zing will have masses of old machine parts and drives sitting around plus the needed network cards, it would be easy to download,burn and boot freeNAS and give it a try,
it would also probably interest people that need or want large harddrive storage but dont want to be bothered installing a windows OS from scratch just to get their old unused box running as a network storage and put it in another room somewere so they dont need to hear it.
then if i ever find that elusive DVB-T yuan livecd with vlc then that too can become a good cheap TV network device, that too might interest some other people into TV recording storage/serving.
i could go make my own special livecd or instll a full distro but a generic working livecd is alwasy going to get far more interest from the average windows crowd as its boot and go, no install required until later after you see it to be a good option for your needs....