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Originally Posted by stuartbe
I would agree with your point but for one small factor... NTL'S servers seem to have a higher downtime than uptime. I have software that watches the news servers, pop and smtp servers and they are down at least one a week and sometimes more !!!!
Yes - no network service can give 100% uptime - I work on networks that have a hell of a lot of money invested in them (1.2 mil in the last month !) and they cant offer this... But when the downtime is the same of worse than the uptime something is badly wrong 
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Stu maybe you can show us all some comparisons then to back this up.
Ten ISP's for example........
This would add some weight to an other wise too often one sided argument.
Im not trying to pick a fight mate, im just suggesting that some facts would back this up.
I dont agree that i have ever experienced a level of service so poor as you describe. I would describe my 9 years of service as very good in fact and good value for money