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Your own web server for free !
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First you need to make sure that all of the windows security updates are installed and that you have a firewall and antivirus software installed. This is VITAL to the protection of your system and can not be overstated. If you do not know what a firewall or antivirus package is I dont recomend that you proceed further. The next step is to download a web server - there is a very good free one at http://www.aprelium.com . Once you have downloaded the software and installed it( there is a free support forum should you need it) you then need to have a way that people can find your web page. You can do this for free at www.no-ip.org . Register and choose a domain name. You can even use your own for a small fee. Once you have registered you will be able to download the no-ip client. This small program will update the no-ip name servers when your ip address changes. I have several accounts set up with them so I can offer help with the the setup of the software. You now need to make your site available, depending on your firewall this is done in diferent ways but all you need to do is allow incoming packets to port 80. If you have a router you need to create a port mapping to the computer that is running the web server. Do NOT put the web server on the dmz as this can put your system at risk. The web server software can be run as a service if you have windows 2000 or XP. You need to go into sheduled tasks in the control pannel. Create a new task and browse to the abys web server .exe file. Select run at system startup and deselect the stop after 72 hours tick box. The next time your system is started the web server will run silently in the background. I can give further advice on this if you need it. The very last thing to do is to create your website. Keep the website clean and tidy and you will get lots of hits. Dont forget that you only have a limited amount of upload so large video's and music files are a no no. If you want to host large files I would advise you get an account with I web solutions. They are cheap and reliable. Further details are available at http://www.i-websolutions.co.uk Running your own website is fun and informative but can have implications attached to it. If you are not sure about something please please post and ask. None of us bite and we will be glad to help. |
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When I read that first post I thought "Abyss?? What's wrong with Apache?" but I checked out the website and I think you made a good choice there - fast, small and minimal features to get started with a basic site. :tu:
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Though apache is better I think abyss is better for first time users ! |
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I think I'll have a bash at this sometime :D
p.s. nice plug to I-Web solutions btw :D :) |
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I am running a small home "server" It's using Win 2000, with IIS (that';s gotta be patched to hell)
I did try Apache but got sick of editing the Conf file, so threw it half way through, i'm sure apache will scare off a lot of first time users with that. Don't get me wrong, it's pretty secure and very stable. There are a few other ones, simple serve and Abyss etc, i haven't tried these.. but they probably do the same job for simple work. The best thing about hosting your own Website is that you have unlimited amount of space, all the bandwidth your ISP can take and you can post whatever the hell ya want :D |
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Is our BW really capped though? I heard something about it being capped to 1Gb a day, but I have often downloaded and uploaded alot more than that and heard nothing from NTL at all?
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The problem is not a cap its the upload speed (256k) on a 1mb service. This is why I recomended hosting with I-web if you want to host music/videos or if you get more than 3/4 peeps connecting at the same time.... |
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I only host my own site and don't get too many visitors, it works for me.
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I know your trying to help and all, but wouldnt you be better of getting all the php stuff and mysql as well, for it to run stably you would need 4-5 computers for a stable setup
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BTW - where do 4-5 computers come into it ? :confused: |
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Right let me explain for maximum server usage, you dont have everything on one server. You need one for the php , one for the apache , one for the scripts I guess sepeerate from the php one, one mysql database and one firewall.
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Good idea though.... Why dont you write out one for setting this up ? I know that it would be greatfuly recieved by the comunity :) |
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They also (if I remember from .com), don't like you using more than 300Mb per day upload.
If you run a small forum on your PC, try to put all non-dynamic content in your NTL webspace instead - all the icons, images, and if possible, use a linked stylesheet rather than having multiple attributes entered many times. Anything that does NOT have to go across your precious upload, is a little more upload capacity for things that DO. |
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It is quite common to run MySQL on the same machine as the HTTP server although I agree, for large usage installations, separation is a good thing. As for firewalling, there's no need for a dedicated system although it's convenient to nominate one system as a router and implement it there. Speaking from personal experience, I run Apache and MySQL on an Athlon XP 2000+ system under FreeBSD. This system also performs NAT and firewalling. It runs additional services such as sendmail and Mailman (mailing list manager) in 512MB of memory. The CPU idle figure for this configuration is > 99.5% on average. Regards, Neil Darlow |
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My friend runs on dial-up 28 kbps, what can he get out of that?
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:erm: Not a lot.. One user viewing a web page will suck all of his bandwidth. He needs to use a propper webhost like i-web - They host this site and offer some very good discounts for cableforum members.
HTH |
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If I use a personal computer for hosting my site but i have a firewall and virus scanner does my computer stand a higher risk of being sucessfully hacked concidering i am only putting personal pages as a hobby up on the net?
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That depends on the web server software. Some of the free ones are very insecure.
You need to make sure that the pc is very secure. Check the knowlege base on microsofts site. The problems is that if you are hosting a page on it then you will attract a lot of attention to you IP ! |
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This free software being talked about in this thread - it any good?
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the best software i find for running a webserver on your home pc is aeonserv it has all of the features built in including.
Apache MySql 4.18 PHP 4.3.5 phpmyadmin The only drawback as far as i can see is that it will only run on NT based machines. Installation could not be easier just double click the install pogram answer a few basic question and it is all set up for you if you have a domain name it will use this to let the outside world view your masterpiece i would reccomend getting one of the free dyndns domain names from the likes of no-ip. And if you are really lazy it comes preinstalled with a website already configured to run called Geeklog. Also it is FREE You can get this @ http://aeonserv.com |
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Yes, Abyss web server is straightforward and very easy to use. If I wanted to set this up, mainly for home use any ideas how I could add a blogging capability ?
Thanks for the tip. |
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So even if your computer is off. Can people still access your website?
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Thanks for all this info chaps - so for someone who has read the Dummies guide to Apache, PHP and MySQL - and been left thoroughly bemused (please don't try to help me on those my brain won't take it) is the general consensus that Aprelium is the way forward me?
All I want to do is stick a database on a website and search it - simple! Will this work for me, and what else would I need to make it happen? I have a nice spare machine ready to go with this, running XP Pro. Any ideas? |
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Thanks for the tip - yep the Dummies book started out well by talking to me like I was a three year old (which when it comes to fiddling with servers and the like I am) then suddenly it assumes that I know it all leaving me thoroughly bemsued!
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Try Sams Teach Yourself books
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I'd just go with Apache/PHP/MySQL and then post here for help if you get stuck.
I'm very experienced in configuring this lot to work on Windows 2000/XP. |
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So if I buy you a pint will you come round my house and make it work????
Thanks for the offer of advice though - much appreciated. I may give it a go, but it all looks a little too confusing for my feeble brain - but I guess that's how you learn how it works! |
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I'll just mention that I have to install this setup on another computer right now for dev work so I'll document the process for you. :)
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You are a scholar and a gentleman sir! Perhaps you should put it in print, you could make a fortune!!
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Not sure what your knowledge is but if you do get a working setup it might be an idea to break the learning curve into chunks. Say, tackle PHP first and get the hang of it, then maybe have a go at creating a database with a few tables, then trying getting data in the database to appear on a web page, then try getting data input into a form to appear in the database. The database bit is the hardest bit IMHO :)
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Ricahrd is VERY good, he designed parts of the i-web website..... (the Special offers/testimonials/news input/management/output system.... :))
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Well here you go, I've written this as I go and it's all fully working on WinXP.
Part 2 will come later, it's even easier to install MySQL but get PHP running first, any problem give me a shout ;) |
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Thanks Richard, much appreciated - I'll give that a look over the weekend.
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In case I've made typos in that, the Apache directory should be "c:\Apache2\" not "c:\Apache 2\".
I just noticed another one and I think you downloaded the text file already... |
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Thanks for the webserver info, I used to run an FTP server for my mates until I got sick to death with the bandwidth usage. Now I can run an easy website with not much bandwidth being taken away!
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i have installed the abyss server and i can view it locally, but i dont understand how my friends would access the website...what do they connect too, i know i can set up a free cjb.net or no-ip.com account but what IP address do i enter...how do i find out the correct one.
I am using NTL Broadband 300k |
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Go to http://www.whatismyip.com/ to see what your external IP is.
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currently viewing the website locally its - http://127.0.0.1/ when i go to whatismyip.com i do get an I.P address but how do i direct that to the server. I am also behind a router...do i need to anything additional with that... thanks |
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you need a domain name that will point to your website. If you have one then all you need to do is update you dns records to point to your external IP address. Once you have set this up then you will need to map port 80 incoming on your router to the internal IP that your computer is using. First things first - Do you have a domain name you can use ? |
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Once you've done that, start up the webserver and replace 127.0.0.1 in your URL to whatever your IP is. |
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I used Apache as my WWW server, with PHP enabled, and a nice FREE install of MySQL for the forums database. You only need to go for multi-server environment when you are running either a HUGE site which has loads of content (like BBC.co.uk), or lots of sites. |
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I would recommend everyone makes sure there copy of PHP is upto date...........
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Hi,
Has anyone managed to get this to work with ntl broadband? I have a computer setup as a router/gateway between my cable connection and my private network, and I have tried running a webserver on this computer, but I can't view the webpages from the my WAN ip address (currently 80.3.160.7), but it works from the internal ip address of the server (192.168.0.1) (or localhost). A portscan of my external address suggests that port 80 is open. I also can't get ssh to work over the ntl connection either. Does anyone know if ntl are blocking ports or useing some other way to stop me running a home webserver? Any help would be appreciated F1 Driver |
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:welcome: to the forum.
AFAIK you should be able to run a web server. Just to clarify, are you saying you have web server with two network connections, one using DHCP and connected directly to the cable modem (i.e. not via a router), and the other on 192.168.0.1 connected to a local network. You can access the web site on the 'server' as localhost, and from other PCs on your LAN, but not from the 'outside'. What OS are you running? Any firewall software? |
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Beware, that whatismyip detects ntl proxies, not your real address.
I find http://www.dslzoneuk.net/ip_checker.php to be quite good. |
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Thank you! (Especially jtwn:tu:) I now have the web server working with the correct IP address. I was using the address of the ntl proxy not my computer (I was using www.whatismyip.com)!
JohnHorb you are 100% correct, I had tried with both WinXP/IIS and Linux/Apache, and turned off the firewall (temporarily) to see if that was causing a problem. But it wasn't, it was the proxy. F1Driver :D |
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Hi rich,
did you ever get round to doing part 2? |
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No...but I can do if you'd like. :)
Give me a day or so. |
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yes i would also recommend web-mania.com
simple, reliable fats hosting for £20 a year. my friend also offers great hosting at www.woodhornhosting.co.uk Basic package, £10 a year here is my website- www.34u.org Jointly owned with another guy. we both coded it. Check it out!! |
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also, stuart,
isused your ideas, but modified them slightly- used my own domain ( www.peepsnet.net and www.andymt.co.uk ) edited the DNS Zone to point to my static ip Downloaded Apache software for windows, its the best as it can run php built a website! Take a look. (it might not be online very much, but i will leave it on this morning for a while! I have a few downloads, but will be faster with the upcoming telewest upgrades (then i will have 384kbps upload speed) |
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Do Telewest allow this with their standard broadband package? As i've heard that some ISPs frown on you hosting your own server.
I can't find any info about it on their website. Thank you in advance:) |
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im suprised that noones ever mentioned using rebol for a bit of fun
web hosting, bbs system, blogger, many other things and its totally small and portable across OS's too. its a shame that ntlworld dont allow cgi scripts as i'd love to put rebol and the bbs/blogger scripts directly on the serverside webspace we get. get both rebol/view and rebol/core for your OS http://www.rebol.com/download.html go here http://www.tgd-consulting.de/Download.html and get Serve-It! here for the bbs (click the download script at the top http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap...bbs.r#reb-over and here for the blogger http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap...ipt=new-blog.r heres several rebol scripts including the original Wiki/Weblog app vanilla http://www.rebol.net/solutions.html and many more advanced scripts/apps. http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/blog.r?index=0 http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rbbs.r http://www.rebol.com/docs/cgi-bbs.html :o: the serve-it is dead easy to setup within 2 mins and just copy it to any dir and run. it struggles a bit with serving some avi's to VLC mostly H264/AVC/mpeg4part10 but still a cool few minutes playing around. if you want to play a little more with the vast possibilitys of both the core and the GUI view rebol try out this Rebol Programming For The Absolute Beginner http://musiclessonz.com/rebol_tutorial.html for some instant WOW thats good stuff.................... |
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Sorry if this has already been mentioned but when I had slightly decent upload I used to run "Wamp" webserver with MYSQL and PHP with it, Was VERY VERY relieable even on a P3 500Mhz machine.
I don't use any servers now as on a crappy upload :( |
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Another one you could use is EasyPHP its Apache/mySQL
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I run the website www.abyssunderground.co.uk, its the official help website for Abyss Web Server for those who want to use it. Ive been around these forums for a while and only just noticed this thread.
Good luck to all those who decide to use it. You can get professional help on setting it up on www.aprelium.com/forum if you dont get the answers you need here. |
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Yeh Wamp is pretty good for testing stuff before it goes online, but nothing can beat a Linux test server for testing sites to be uploaded to a Linux server for problems that can crop up because of the differences how PHP reacts between to 2 OS's
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anyone use jamroll for hosting? if so how do you find them?
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Hi all. have got space on my mates web server.. but can't upload my www.simplemachinesfoum.org
php stuff to it . and get the permissions to work.. can anybody help. |
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Another one for the WAMP list here :)
check the readme - tells you which files need CHMOD'ing :) that was my problem, the server may be running linux which needs chmod'ing windows doesnt. Wamp5 = quick, painless, easy, and no need for "4 or 5" machines like stated before... Mine runs wamp5- ability mail server (soon to be kerio6), my "intranet" - sql, php, all the perl scripts etc. AND runs Folding@Home @ 40% cpu usage - along with BulletProof FTP running- and normally Newsleecher & QuickPar- far from being a dedicated server - but it does the job, used mainly for mp3/video/flash movie streaming over network. along with NOD32 running in background :) does more but i cba to type :D On an Amd Skt A 2400+, Win server 2003, 768mb ram not enough storage IIS is useful - but not as easy to use as apache (apache being wamp5- not installing it yourself) :P |
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Hi very interested in this has anyone tried this on ntl and does it work ok
or do they block it have posted a message but keep getting told that its not in the term and conditions that you can host a server on ntl is this right or am i doing something wrong Regards Jimbob |
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You're not supposed to host servers on the NTL residential service but I would expect that as long as you don't completely hose the bandwidth or leave your server insecure you will find you won't get a knock at the door ;)
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What and how do you use for your server and was it easy to set-up Regards Jimbob |
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All the details on my server and specs etc are available on my site. If you want extra help, PM me for my MSN address. Hope my site helps :) |
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I'm looking at trying a few different serves myself. Thought I'd start with FTP.
I've got my domain and set up dynamic DNS to point to my IP but I can't seem to get from my external IP to the server being run on my PC. The port forwarding on the router (Netgear DG834GT) says it;s working but GRC says the port is still stealthed and Filezilla just hangs if I try to connect using wither my external IP or the domain that I've got. Anyone got any ideas what I've done wrong? |
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it wont let me post the text, lets see: at a guess perhaps this http://sourceforge.net/docman/displa...group_id=21558 I'm behind a router and nobody can connect to my server or transfer files / directory listings You have to configure your router to forward the ftp port (default: 21) to the server machine. Further you have to forward a port range for passive mode transfers. You can specify this port range on the "passive mode settings" page in the settings dialog in the server interface. In most cases, a range like 5000-5100 is sufficient. Most likely, FileZilla can't determinate the external IP address if behind a router. In this case you have to enter the IP address (or your host name) on the passive mode page in the settings dialog. In case you've a dynamic IP (most dialup users), you can also chose to retrieve the ip address from a website. ---------- Post added at 06:34 ---------- Previous post was at 06:28 ---------- for a giggle try this rebol view web server, very good it is and so small an portable you wont beleave it ;) install this windows rebol view http://www.rebol.com/downloads/view.exe http://www.rebol.com/download.html go here http://www.tgd-consulting.de/Download.html#ServeIt and grab 77KB http://www.tgd-consulting.de/REBOL/ServeIt.r double click it and it will load into view and run. the cgi test, the blogger and the bulletin board .r's are good to, see my other post higher up the thread http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...4&postcount=65 to get other versions if you like what you see ;) |
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Thank to all that posted on this subject on this forum website now up and running ok Regards Jimbob |
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url so we can try it and bug you ;)
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Will have to have another play with it. :erm: ---------- Post added at 14:50 ---------- Previous post was at 14:48 ---------- I'm thinking it's an issue with the rather rather than filezilla as the port still shows as invisible when I fun a port scan of my external IP. :confused: |
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im not saying install linux, just try a livecd to see if it then works so ruling out the installed OS. you can use that slax i mention above to make one but i think iv found one already setup with an ftp server and other bits, dont know if it is but give it a (few minutes) try to see. http://slampp.abangadek.com/wiki/HomePage or if its the filezilla app, i found this secure ftp server you might also try , iv not used eather so dont know if their any good. http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Inter...er-14158.shtml did the quick rebol web server work for you as a test of 80/8080/3128 standard web ports etc at least?. http://search.ntlworld.com/ntlworld/...+&cr=&start=10 |
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I have tried rebol and surfing to the URL of my domain I'm just getting the config page of my router. :confused: All ports on the external IP are showing on GRC that they are in stealth mode and I can't access any of the ports on my PC. Will try it in Linux (I have Ubuntu installed on this PC) but I'm still inclined to think it's a router problem. I'm so :confused: Thanks for your help in this though Popper. :) ---------- Post added at 16:53 ---------- Previous post was at 16:12 ---------- Popper, I've PMed you the URL - can you tell me if you see anything? Grc is still showing the ports as stealthed and if I try and access it from here I just get the rother page all the time. |
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tryed at 5.07pm and nothing, couldnt ping the named url eather, was it running then?, perhaps your ip no might work. see pm
i could ping the url, silly me forgot to remove the / at the end lol , so was the webserver up and running then an just now? 5.47pm the name gets translated to the ip but not reachable btw so i assume you didnt have it running. ---------- Post added at 17:25 ---------- Previous post was at 17:17 ---------- with the rebol webserver running can you get to it locally i.e http://localhost:80 or :8080 or :3128 depending on what port you set it to as you ran it?, doesnt make sense that your getting to see you routers url as that wouldnt be the local url 127.0.0.1 but rather at presumably 192.168.*.* or 10.0.*.* perhaps. |
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i just noticed "It works!" off the named url
LOL, so was it the wrong ip no? and put some rebol messageboard stuff there :) |
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Removed Rebol and replaced it with Apache just while I got the routing issues sorted and as you saw "it works". Will figure our Rebol when I have five min but I just couldn't get my head around the config :dunce:
Looks like the routing and port forwarding on my router is working now. Just need to spend time working out how to get the software working. The bits for my server arrived today but I'm not having much luck with them. I fear getting the components to work together will take most of my spare time up over the next few days. Thanks for the help though popper. It's much appreciated. :) |
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Hi Will Apache run multi website and is it as easy to configure
Regards jimbob |
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Easy depends on your experience. I run serveral web sites including some quite complex db based ones and I'm not sure I'm upto running my own server. I use a reseller account on i-web solutions which auto creates most stuff and is very easy to admin. For £2 a month i-web will sort you out with a full and proper webspace.
If you fancy a trial I can set you up a test account on mine if you have a domain, if not i can create you a temp test -subdomain. |
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Hi got a webserver up and running using abyss with help from this forum now
ready for the next project and what to try multi sites Regards jimbob |
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