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Stuartbe 12-02-2004 19:34

Your own web server for free !
 
How to run your own web server for free --

First you need to make sure that all of the windows security updates
are installed and that you have a firewall and antivirus software installed.
This is VITAL to the protection of your system and can not be overstated.
If you do not know what a firewall or antivirus package is I dont recomend
that you proceed further.

The next step is to download a web server - there is a very good free
one at http://www.aprelium.com . Once you have downloaded the
software and installed it( there is a free support forum should you need it)
you then need to have a way that people can find your web page.
You can do this for free at www.no-ip.org . Register and choose a domain
name. You can even use your own for a small fee. Once you have registered
you will be able to download the no-ip client. This small program will update
the no-ip name servers when your ip address changes. I have several accounts
set up with them so I can offer help with the the setup of the software.

You now need to make your site available, depending on your firewall this is
done in diferent ways but all you need to do is allow incoming packets to
port 80. If you have a router you need to create a port mapping to the
computer that is running the web server. Do NOT put the web server on the
dmz as this can put your system at risk.

The web server software can be run as a service if you have windows 2000
or XP. You need to go into sheduled tasks in the control pannel. Create a
new task and browse to the abys web server .exe file. Select run at system
startup and deselect the stop after 72 hours tick box. The next time your
system is started the web server will run silently in the background. I can give
further advice on this if you need it.

The very last thing to do is to create your website. Keep the website clean and
tidy and you will get lots of hits. Dont forget that you only have a limited amount
of upload so large video's and music files are a no no. If you want to host large
files I would advise you get an account with I web solutions. They are cheap and
reliable. Further details are available at http://www.i-websolutions.co.uk

Running your own website is fun and informative but can have implications
attached to it. If you are not sure about something please please post and
ask. None of us bite and we will be glad to help.

Paul 12-02-2004 20:40

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stuartbe
...
The next step is to download a web server - there is a very good free
one at http://www.aprelium.com .

If you have Windows 2000 or XP they already have IIS don't they ?

Stuartbe 12-02-2004 20:43

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pem
If you have Windows 2000 or XP they already have IIS don't they ?

IMO Abyss is smaller and more secure - the amount of patches that users of IIS have to keep up with is scary. I could have used IIS but I prefer abyss and apache. Much more secure IMO

Richard M 12-02-2004 20:48

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
When I read that first post I thought "Abyss?? What's wrong with Apache?" but I checked out the website and I think you made a good choice there - fast, small and minimal features to get started with a basic site. :tu:

Stuartbe 12-02-2004 20:50

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard M
When I read that first post I thought "Abyss?? What's wrong with Apache?" but I checked out the website and I think you made a good choice there - fast, small and minimal features to get started with a basic site. :tu:

Very tasty it is... Run it without the cgi enabled and it is pretty much rock solid. I spent a week attacking it once and only found one floor that they fixed on the last release......

Though apache is better I think abyss is better for first time users !

Caspar 12-02-2004 21:12

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
I think I'll have a bash at this sometime :D

p.s. nice plug to I-Web solutions btw :D :)

UK1Liam 14-02-2004 10:18

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
I am running a small home "server" It's using Win 2000, with IIS (that';s gotta be patched to hell)

I did try Apache but got sick of editing the Conf file, so threw it half way through, i'm sure apache will scare off a lot of first time users with that. Don't get me wrong, it's pretty secure and very stable.

There are a few other ones, simple serve and Abyss etc, i haven't tried these.. but they probably do the same job for simple work. The best thing about hosting your own Website is that you have unlimited amount of space, all the bandwidth your ISP can take and you can post whatever the hell ya want :D

trebor 14-02-2004 10:38

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by stuartbe
How to run your own web server for free --

The very last thing to do is to create your website. Keep the website clean and
tidy and you will get lots of hits. Dont forget that you only have a limited amount
of upload so large video's and music files are a no no. If you want to host large
files I would advise you get an account with I web solutions. They are cheap and
reliable. Further details are available at http://www.i-websolutions.co.uk

Stuart, why is your upload limited when running your own web server?

willie 14-02-2004 10:54

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by trebor
Stuart, why is your upload limited when running your own web server?

Because if you are with NTL your BW is capped

UK1Liam 14-02-2004 17:38

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Is our BW really capped though? I heard something about it being capped to 1Gb a day, but I have often downloaded and uploaded alot more than that and heard nothing from NTL at all?

Paul 14-02-2004 19:39

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Web Junkie
Because if you are with NTL your BW is capped

It has nothing to do with any "cap". If you are running a web server on your connection then the maximum speed at which others can load stuff from you is your upstream speed, which is only either 128k or 256k (or 64k ?) depending on what package you are on.

Stuartbe 14-02-2004 21:35

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by pem
It has nothing to do with any "cap". If you are running a web server on your connection then the maximum speed at which others can load stuff from you is your upstream speed, which is only either 128k or 256k (or 64k ?) depending on what package you are on.

Pem is spot on :D

The problem is not a cap its the upload speed (256k) on a 1mb service.

This is why I recomended hosting with I-web if you want to host music/videos or if you get more than 3/4 peeps connecting at the same time....

UK1Liam 15-02-2004 22:05

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
I only host my own site and don't get too many visitors, it works for me.

Starsurfer 19-02-2004 01:46

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
I know your trying to help and all, but wouldnt you be better of getting all the php stuff and mysql as well, for it to run stably you would need 4-5 computers for a stable setup

Stuartbe 19-02-2004 09:38

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Starsurfer
I know your trying to help and all, but wouldnt you be better of getting all the php stuff and mysql as well, for it to run stably you would need 4-5 computers for a stable setup

The guide is so that users can get some experience of how a web server works and have a bit of fun at the same time. I dont think that covering php ect is the way to go on this - besides... I am no web scripter !

BTW - where do 4-5 computers come into it ? :confused:

Starsurfer 21-02-2004 17:31

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Right let me explain for maximum server usage, you dont have everything on one server. You need one for the php , one for the apache , one for the scripts I guess sepeerate from the php one, one mysql database and one firewall.

Stuartbe 22-02-2004 13:18

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Starsurfer
Right let me explain for maximum server usage, you dont have everything on one server. You need one for the php , one for the apache , one for the scripts I guess sepeerate from the php one, one mysql database and one firewall.

I see m8 - I think that the guide is more for users setting up a basic web server. Setting up an sql server ect is not realy in the scope of the guide IMO......

Good idea though.... Why dont you write out one for setting this up ? I know that it would be greatfuly recieved by the comunity :)

Matth 01-04-2004 17:02

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
They also (if I remember from .com), don't like you using more than 300Mb per day upload.

If you run a small forum on your PC, try to put all non-dynamic content in your NTL webspace instead - all the icons, images, and if possible, use a linked stylesheet rather than having multiple attributes entered many times. Anything that does NOT have to go across your precious upload, is a little more upload capacity for things that DO.

daemon 05-04-2004 12:33

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Starsurfer
Right let me explain for maximum server usage, you dont have everything on one server. You need one for the php , one for the apache , one for the scripts I guess sepeerate from the php one, one mysql database and one firewall.

Incorrect. PHP scripts have to be accessible to the HTTP server so they need to be on the same machine. In fact, with Apache, PHP is often implemented as a module (mod_php) which is loaded into the server at startup. When run as a CGI, PHP is still executed by the HTTP server and must be accessible to it.

It is quite common to run MySQL on the same machine as the HTTP server although I agree, for large usage installations, separation is a good thing.

As for firewalling, there's no need for a dedicated system although it's convenient to nominate one system as a router and implement it there.

Speaking from personal experience, I run Apache and MySQL on an Athlon XP 2000+ system under FreeBSD. This system also performs NAT and firewalling. It runs additional services such as sendmail and Mailman (mailing list manager) in 512MB of memory. The CPU idle figure for this configuration is > 99.5% on average.

Regards,
Neil Darlow

leo03714 14-04-2004 13:42

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
My friend runs on dial-up 28 kbps, what can he get out of that?

Stuartbe 14-04-2004 13:53

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
:erm: Not a lot.. One user viewing a web page will suck all of his bandwidth. He needs to use a propper webhost like i-web - They host this site and offer some very good discounts for cableforum members.

HTH

leo03714 15-04-2004 11:01

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
If I use a personal computer for hosting my site but i have a firewall and virus scanner does my computer stand a higher risk of being sucessfully hacked concidering i am only putting personal pages as a hobby up on the net?

Stuartbe 15-04-2004 11:04

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
That depends on the web server software. Some of the free ones are very insecure.

You need to make sure that the pc is very secure. Check the knowlege base on microsofts site. The problems is that if you are hosting a page on it then you will attract a lot of attention to you IP !

leo03714 15-04-2004 11:33

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
This free software being talked about in this thread - it any good?

Stuartbe 15-04-2004 11:43

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by leo03714
This free software being talked about in this thread - it any good?

I find that abyss is a good basic web server that does not have many security implications. Just make sure that the pc is secure and well protected by firewalls and antivirus software ect.

HTH

willie 15-04-2004 12:44

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
the best software i find for running a webserver on your home pc is aeonserv it has all of the features built in including.
Apache
MySql 4.18
PHP 4.3.5
phpmyadmin
The only drawback as far as i can see is that it will only run on NT based machines.
Installation could not be easier just double click the install pogram answer a few basic question and it is all set up for you if you have a domain name it will use this to let the outside world view your masterpiece i would reccomend getting one of the free dyndns domain names from the likes of no-ip.

And if you are really lazy it comes preinstalled with a website already configured to run called Geeklog.

Also it is FREE
You can get this @ http://aeonserv.com

Jacquesb 24-04-2004 13:22

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Yes, Abyss web server is straightforward and very easy to use. If I wanted to set this up, mainly for home use any ideas how I could add a blogging capability ?

Thanks for the tip.

MadGamer 03-05-2004 16:26

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
So even if your computer is off. Can people still access your website?

willie 03-05-2004 16:31

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WNA
So even if your computer is off. Can people still access your website?

NO

Paul 03-05-2004 16:31

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by WNA
So even if your computer is off. Can people still access your website?

Is that a serious question ? :erm:

MadGamer 03-05-2004 18:53

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Pem
Is that a serious question ? :erm:

Well it was really. Sorry for all the trouble.

andygrif 21-05-2004 10:21

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Thanks for all this info chaps - so for someone who has read the Dummies guide to Apache, PHP and MySQL - and been left thoroughly bemused (please don't try to help me on those my brain won't take it) is the general consensus that Aprelium is the way forward me?

All I want to do is stick a database on a website and search it - simple! Will this work for me, and what else would I need to make it happen? I have a nice spare machine ready to go with this, running XP Pro. Any ideas?

greencreeper 21-05-2004 12:10

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andygrif
...someone who has read the Dummies guide to Apache, PHP and MySQL...

Just a note - the Dummies series isn't very good at all. I have a few of their books, including the Apache one, and they lack information and gloss over stuff. There are better books out there. Pretty much everything you need to understand and configure Apache is on their website anyway.

andygrif 21-05-2004 12:35

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Thanks for the tip - yep the Dummies book started out well by talking to me like I was a three year old (which when it comes to fiddling with servers and the like I am) then suddenly it assumes that I know it all leaving me thoroughly bemsued!

MadGamer 21-05-2004 15:39

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Try Sams Teach Yourself books

Chris 21-05-2004 15:45

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by greencreeper
Just a note - the Dummies series isn't very good at all. I have a few of their books, including the Apache one, and they lack information and gloss over stuff. There are better books out there. Pretty much everything you need to understand and configure Apache is on their website anyway.

The xxxxx for Dummies series isn't all written by the same person, so they're not all bad just because one or two of them are. As a matter of fact, the Mac ones are pretty good, as the author (David Pogue) is a Mac whizz. Can't speak for the ones mentioned above, tho.

Richard M 21-05-2004 16:17

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
I'd just go with Apache/PHP/MySQL and then post here for help if you get stuck.
I'm very experienced in configuring this lot to work on Windows 2000/XP.

andygrif 21-05-2004 17:06

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
So if I buy you a pint will you come round my house and make it work????

Thanks for the offer of advice though - much appreciated. I may give it a go, but it all looks a little too confusing for my feeble brain - but I guess that's how you learn how it works!

Richard M 21-05-2004 19:00

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
I'll just mention that I have to install this setup on another computer right now for dev work so I'll document the process for you. :)

andygrif 21-05-2004 19:51

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
You are a scholar and a gentleman sir! Perhaps you should put it in print, you could make a fortune!!

greencreeper 21-05-2004 20:02

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Not sure what your knowledge is but if you do get a working setup it might be an idea to break the learning curve into chunks. Say, tackle PHP first and get the hang of it, then maybe have a go at creating a database with a few tables, then trying getting data in the database to appear on a web page, then try getting data input into a form to appear in the database. The database bit is the hardest bit IMHO :)

KingPhoenix 21-05-2004 20:29

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Ricahrd is VERY good, he designed parts of the i-web website..... (the Special offers/testimonials/news input/management/output system.... :))

Richard M 21-05-2004 20:51

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
1 Attachment(s)
Well here you go, I've written this as I go and it's all fully working on WinXP.
Part 2 will come later, it's even easier to install MySQL but get PHP running first, any problem give me a shout ;)

andygrif 22-05-2004 00:25

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Thanks Richard, much appreciated - I'll give that a look over the weekend.

Richard M 22-05-2004 00:44

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
In case I've made typos in that, the Apache directory should be "c:\Apache2\" not "c:\Apache 2\".
I just noticed another one and I think you downloaded the text file already...

Electrolyte01 05-07-2004 13:00

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Thanks for the webserver info, I used to run an FTP server for my mates until I got sick to death with the bandwidth usage. Now I can run an easy website with not much bandwidth being taken away!

heyyo 02-08-2004 22:37

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
i have installed the abyss server and i can view it locally, but i dont understand how my friends would access the website...what do they connect too, i know i can set up a free cjb.net or no-ip.com account but what IP address do i enter...how do i find out the correct one.

I am using NTL Broadband 300k

Richard M 02-08-2004 23:24

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Go to http://www.whatismyip.com/ to see what your external IP is.

heyyo 03-08-2004 12:21

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Hi,

currently viewing the website locally its - http://127.0.0.1/
when i go to whatismyip.com i do get an I.P address but how do i direct that to the server. I am also behind a router...do i need to anything additional with that...

thanks

Stuartbe 03-08-2004 12:24

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heyyo
Hi,

currently viewing the website locally its - http://127.0.0.1/
when i go to whatismyip.com i do get an I.P address but how do i direct that to the server. I am also behind a router...do i need to anything additional with that...

thanks

O.K.

you need a domain name that will point to your website. If you have one then all you need to do is update you dns records to point to your external IP address.

Once you have set this up then you will need to map port 80 incoming on your router to the internal IP that your computer is using.

First things first - Do you have a domain name you can use ?

Richard M 03-08-2004 12:50

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by heyyo
Hi,

currently viewing the website locally its - http://127.0.0.1/
when i go to whatismyip.com i do get an I.P address but how do i direct that to the server. I am also behind a router...do i need to anything additional with that...

thanks

All you need to do is port-forward any requests on port 80, assuming you are using this port, it could be 8080.
Once you've done that, start up the webserver and replace 127.0.0.1 in your URL to whatever your IP is.

Stuart W 31-12-2004 11:27

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Starsurfer
I know your trying to help and all, but wouldnt you be better of getting all the php stuff and mysql as well, for it to run stably you would need 4-5 computers for a stable setup

I ran a forum using PHP and MySQL on a PII450 with 128M of RAM with no problems at all for a whole year before I transfered to a 'real' server.

I used Apache as my WWW server, with PHP enabled, and a nice FREE install of MySQL for the forums database.

You only need to go for multi-server environment when you are running either a HUGE site which has loads of content (like BBC.co.uk), or lots of sites.

KingPhoenix 31-12-2004 11:36

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
I would recommend everyone makes sure there copy of PHP is upto date...........

KP

StarMasseur 16-01-2005 22:59

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuartbe
O.K.

you need a domain name that will point to your website. If you have one then all you need to do is update you dns records to point to your external IP address.

Once you have set this up then you will need to map port 80 incoming on your router to the internal IP that your computer is using.

First things first - Do you have a domain name you can use ?

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Quote:

Originally Posted by heyyo
i have installed the abyss server and i can view it locally, but i dont understand how my friends would access the website...what do they connect too, i know i can set up a free cjb.net or no-ip.com account but what IP address do i enter...how do i find out the correct one.

I am using NTL Broadband 300k


F1Driver 01-03-2005 22:08

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Hi,
Has anyone managed to get this to work with ntl broadband?
I have a computer setup as a router/gateway between my cable connection and my private network, and I have tried running a webserver on this computer, but I can't view the webpages from the my WAN ip address (currently 80.3.160.7), but it works from the internal ip address of the server (192.168.0.1) (or localhost). A portscan of my external address suggests that port 80 is open.
I also can't get ssh to work over the ntl connection either.
Does anyone know if ntl are blocking ports or useing some other way to stop me running a home webserver?

Any help would be appreciated

F1 Driver

JohnHorb 01-03-2005 22:18

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
:welcome: to the forum.

AFAIK you should be able to run a web server. Just to clarify, are you saying you have web server with two network connections, one using DHCP and connected directly to the cable modem (i.e. not via a router), and the other on 192.168.0.1 connected to a local network. You can access the web site on the 'server' as localhost, and from other PCs on your LAN, but not from the 'outside'. What OS are you running? Any firewall software?

jtwn 01-03-2005 23:06

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Beware, that whatismyip detects ntl proxies, not your real address.

I find http://www.dslzoneuk.net/ip_checker.php to be quite good.

F1Driver 02-03-2005 19:37

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Thank you! (Especially jtwn:tu:) I now have the web server working with the correct IP address. I was using the address of the ntl proxy not my computer (I was using www.whatismyip.com)!

JohnHorb you are 100% correct, I had tried with both WinXP/IIS and Linux/Apache, and turned off the firewall (temporarily) to see if that was causing a problem. But it wasn't, it was the proxy.

F1Driver :D

Caspar 20-03-2005 22:05

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Richard M
Well here you go, I've written this as I go and it's all fully working on WinXP.
Part 2 will come later, it's even easier to install MySQL but get PHP running first, any problem give me a shout ;)

..did you do a Part 2 to this Richard? :)

handyman 25-03-2005 23:00

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Hi rich,

did you ever get round to doing part 2?

Richard M 26-03-2005 01:17

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
No...but I can do if you'd like. :)
Give me a day or so.

andymt 29-08-2005 19:59

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
yes i would also recommend web-mania.com

simple, reliable fats hosting for £20 a year.

my friend also offers great hosting at www.woodhornhosting.co.uk

Basic package, £10 a year

here is my website- www.34u.org
Jointly owned with another guy. we both coded it. Check it out!!

andymt 31-08-2005 08:39

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
also, stuart,

isused your ideas, but modified them slightly-
used my own domain ( www.peepsnet.net and www.andymt.co.uk )
edited the DNS Zone to point to my static ip
Downloaded Apache software for windows, its the best as it can run php
built a website! Take a look. (it might not be online very much, but i will leave it on this morning for a while!

I have a few downloads, but will be faster with the upcoming telewest upgrades (then i will have 384kbps upload speed)

antium 21-09-2005 04:45

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Do Telewest allow this with their standard broadband package? As i've heard that some ISPs frown on you hosting your own server.

I can't find any info about it on their website.

Thank you in advance:)

popper 30-01-2006 16:28

Re: Your own web server for free ! rebol serve-it
 
im suprised that noones ever mentioned using rebol for a bit of fun
web hosting, bbs system, blogger, many other things and its totally
small and portable across OS's too.

its a shame that ntlworld dont allow cgi scripts
as i'd love to put rebol and the bbs/blogger scripts
directly on the serverside webspace we get.

get both rebol/view and rebol/core for your OS
http://www.rebol.com/download.html

go here http://www.tgd-consulting.de/Download.html and get
Serve-It!

here for the bbs (click the download script at the top
http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap...bbs.r#reb-over

and here for the blogger http://www.rebol.org/cgi-bin/cgiwrap...ipt=new-blog.r

heres several rebol scripts including the original Wiki/Weblog app
vanilla http://www.rebol.net/solutions.html
and many more advanced scripts/apps.

http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/blog.r?index=0
http://www.rebol.net/cgi-bin/rbbs.r
http://www.rebol.com/docs/cgi-bbs.html :o:

the serve-it is dead easy to setup within 2 mins
and just copy it to any dir and run.

it struggles a bit with serving some avi's to VLC
mostly H264/AVC/mpeg4part10 but still a cool
few minutes playing around.

if you want to play a little more with the vast
possibilitys of both the core and the GUI view rebol
try out this Rebol Programming For The Absolute Beginner
http://musiclessonz.com/rebol_tutorial.html
for some instant WOW thats good stuff....................

bluecandylover 19-04-2006 01:55

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Sorry if this has already been mentioned but when I had slightly decent upload I used to run "Wamp" webserver with MYSQL and PHP with it, Was VERY VERY relieable even on a P3 500Mhz machine.

I don't use any servers now as on a crappy upload :(

moogles 28-07-2006 20:23

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Another one you could use is EasyPHP its Apache/mySQL

AbyssUnderground 07-08-2006 10:50

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
I run the website www.abyssunderground.co.uk, its the official help website for Abyss Web Server for those who want to use it. Ive been around these forums for a while and only just noticed this thread.

Good luck to all those who decide to use it. You can get professional help on setting it up on www.aprelium.com/forum if you dont get the answers you need here.

Flobajob 07-08-2006 10:56

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
EasyPHP is good, but WAMP is far better, so easy to configure.

http://www.en.wampserver.com/

Graham M 07-08-2006 11:16

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Yeh Wamp is pretty good for testing stuff before it goes online, but nothing can beat a Linux test server for testing sites to be uploaded to a Linux server for problems that can crop up because of the differences how PHP reacts between to 2 OS's

kitster 12-08-2006 14:59

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
anyone use jamroll for hosting? if so how do you find them?

michael_swan 18-08-2006 11:29

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Hi all. have got space on my mates web server.. but can't upload my www.simplemachinesfoum.org

php stuff to it . and get the permissions to work..

can anybody help.

Flobajob 18-08-2006 12:35

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by michael_swan
Hi all. have got space on my mates web server.. but can't upload my www.simplemachinesfoum.org

php stuff to it . and get the permissions to work..

can anybody help.

What exactly are you asking? :confused:

AbyssUnderground 18-08-2006 16:52

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by michael_swan
Hi all. have got space on my mates web server.. but can't upload my www.simplemachinesfoum.org

php stuff to it . and get the permissions to work..

can anybody help.

Best person to ask is your mate. Its his server.

matt_2k34 15-09-2006 07:02

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Another one for the WAMP list here :)

check the readme - tells you which files need CHMOD'ing :) that was my problem, the server may be running linux which needs chmod'ing windows doesnt.

Wamp5 = quick, painless, easy, and no need for "4 or 5" machines like stated before... Mine runs wamp5- ability mail server (soon to be kerio6), my "intranet" - sql, php, all the perl scripts etc. AND runs Folding@Home @ 40% cpu usage - along with BulletProof FTP running- and normally Newsleecher & QuickPar- far from being a dedicated server - but it does the job, used mainly for mp3/video/flash movie streaming over network. along with NOD32 running in background :) does more but i cba to type :D

On an Amd Skt A 2400+,
Win server 2003,
768mb ram
not enough storage

IIS is useful - but not as easy to use as apache (apache being wamp5- not installing it yourself) :P

jimbob123 09-11-2006 16:03

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Hi very interested in this has anyone tried this on ntl and does it work ok
or do they block it have posted a message but keep getting told that its not in the term and conditions that you can host a server on ntl is this right or am i doing something wrong

Regards

Jimbob

Paul K 09-11-2006 16:15

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
You're not supposed to host servers on the NTL residential service but I would expect that as long as you don't completely hose the bandwidth or leave your server insecure you will find you won't get a knock at the door ;)

AbyssUnderground 09-11-2006 16:42

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Paul (Post 34154368)
You're not supposed to host servers on the NTL residential service but I would expect that as long as you don't completely hose the bandwidth or leave your server insecure you will find you won't get a knock at the door ;)

Ive been running a server for 1 year now, pretty high traffic too. There is nothing in the TOC to say that servers should not be hosted but it does say that it is your responsibility and that it is unsupported by NTL.

jimbob123 09-11-2006 16:58

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Hi
What and how do you use for your server and was it easy to set-up

Regards

Jimbob

AbyssUnderground 09-11-2006 19:18

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbob123 (Post 34154395)
Hi
What and how do you use for your server and was it easy to set-up

Regards

Jimbob

Well, I host a site on setting up a webserver at home, its in my sig. Its very easy to use software and the tutorials are very easy to follow. If you have issues there is a forum for help.

All the details on my server and specs etc are available on my site. If you want extra help, PM me for my MSN address.

Hope my site helps :)

Stuart 09-11-2006 20:23

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AbyssUnderground (Post 34154387)
Ive been running a server for 1 year now, pretty high traffic too. There is nothing in the TOC to say that servers should not be hosted but it does say that it is your responsibility and that it is unsupported by NTL.

One ex (at least I think he is ex) member did get pulled up by NTL's AUP team for running a webserver with excessive amounts of upload. However, generally NTL don't bother. You are right, they just say it's unsupported.

AbyssUnderground 09-11-2006 21:53

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Stuart C (Post 34154562)
One ex (at least I think he is ex) member did get pulled up by NTL's AUP team for running a webserver with excessive amounts of upload. However, generally NTL don't bother. You are right, they just say it's unsupported.

I actually printed a copy of the servers section from their TOC last year to prove to my dad they allowed it. He was trying to find a way for me not to leave a pc on 24/7. Lets say I wiggled my way round that too.

Shaun 09-11-2006 22:06

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2 Attachment(s)
I'm looking at trying a few different serves myself. Thought I'd start with FTP.

I've got my domain and set up dynamic DNS to point to my IP but I can't seem to get from my external IP to the server being run on my PC. The port forwarding on the router (Netgear DG834GT) says it;s working but GRC says the port is still stealthed and Filezilla just hangs if I try to connect using wither my external IP or the domain that I've got.

Anyone got any ideas what I've done wrong?

popper 10-11-2006 06:34

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 34154644)
I'm looking at trying a few different serves myself. Thought I'd start with FTP.

I've got my domain and set up dynamic DNS to point to my IP but I can't seem to get from my external IP to the server being run on my PC. The port forwarding on the router (Netgear DG834GT) says it;s working but GRC says the port is still stealthed and Filezilla just hangs if I try to connect using wither my external IP or the domain that I've got.

Anyone got any ideas what I've done wrong?

---------- Post added at 06:28 ---------- Previous post was at 05:59 ----------

it wont let me post the text, lets see:
at a guess perhaps this
http://sourceforge.net/docman/displa...group_id=21558
I'm behind a router and nobody can connect to my server or transfer files / directory listings
You have to configure your router to forward the ftp port (default: 21) to the server machine. Further you have to forward a port range for passive mode transfers. You can specify this port range on the "passive mode settings" page in the settings dialog in the server interface. In most cases, a range like 5000-5100 is sufficient. Most likely, FileZilla can't determinate the external IP address if behind a router. In this case you have to enter the IP address (or your host name) on the passive mode page in the settings dialog. In case you've a dynamic IP (most dialup users), you can also chose to retrieve the ip address from a website.

---------- Post added at 06:34 ---------- Previous post was at 06:28 ----------

for a giggle try this rebol view web server, very good it is and so small an portable you wont beleave it ;)
install this windows rebol view
http://www.rebol.com/downloads/view.exe
http://www.rebol.com/download.html

go here http://www.tgd-consulting.de/Download.html#ServeIt
and grab 77KB http://www.tgd-consulting.de/REBOL/ServeIt.r

double click it and it will load into view and run.

the cgi test, the blogger and the bulletin board .r's are good to, see my other post higher up the thread http://www.cableforum.co.uk/board/sh...4&postcount=65
to get other versions if you like what you see ;)

AbyssUnderground 10-11-2006 07:43

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 34154644)
I'm looking at trying a few different serves myself. Thought I'd start with FTP.

I've got my domain and set up dynamic DNS to point to my IP but I can't seem to get from my external IP to the server being run on my PC. The port forwarding on the router (Netgear DG834GT) says it;s working but GRC says the port is still stealthed and Filezilla just hangs if I try to connect using wither my external IP or the domain that I've got.

Anyone got any ideas what I've done wrong?

Try going to www.portforward.com. The site will help you forward the ports correctly for pretty much anything. Just select HTTP from the list of services/apps.

jimbob123 13-11-2006 10:06

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Hi

Thank to all that posted on this subject on this forum website now up and running ok

Regards

Jimbob

popper 13-11-2006 12:47

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
url so we can try it and bug you ;)

Shaun 13-11-2006 14:50

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by AbyssUnderground (Post 34154793)
Try going to www.portforward.com. The site will help you forward the ports correctly for pretty much anything. Just select HTTP from the list of services/apps.

That's the site I followed. I followed the instructions to the letter but it's still not forwarding the port to my PC.

Will have to have another play with it. :erm:

---------- Post added at 14:50 ---------- Previous post was at 14:48 ----------

I'm thinking it's an issue with the rather rather than filezilla as the port still shows as invisible when I fun a port scan of my external IP. :confused:

popper 13-11-2006 15:27

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 34157324)
That's the site I followed. I followed the instructions to the letter but it's still not forwarding the port to my PC.

Will have to have another play with it. :erm:

---------- Post added at 14:50 ---------- Previous post was at 14:48 ----------

I'm thinking it's an issue with the rather rather than filezilla as the port still shows as invisible when I fun a port scan of my external IP. :confused:

hmm, after i read that i wonder if the windows settings are stopping you.

im not saying install linux, just try a livecd to see if it then works so ruling out the installed OS.

you can use that slax i mention above to make one but i think iv found one already setup with an ftp server and other bits, dont know if it is but give it a (few minutes) try to see.

http://slampp.abangadek.com/wiki/HomePage

or if its the filezilla app, i found this secure ftp server you might also try , iv not used eather so dont know if their any good.
http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Inter...er-14158.shtml

did the quick rebol web server work for you as a test of 80/8080/3128 standard web ports etc at least?.

http://search.ntlworld.com/ntlworld/...+&cr=&start=10

Shaun 13-11-2006 16:53

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by popper (Post 34157345)
hmm, after i read that i wonder if the windows settings are stopping you.

Just popping out so haven't tried all your suggestions but will when I get back shortly.

I have tried rebol and surfing to the URL of my domain I'm just getting the config page of my router. :confused:

All ports on the external IP are showing on GRC that they are in stealth mode and I can't access any of the ports on my PC.

Will try it in Linux (I have Ubuntu installed on this PC) but I'm still inclined to think it's a router problem.

I'm so :confused:

Thanks for your help in this though Popper. :)

---------- Post added at 16:53 ---------- Previous post was at 16:12 ----------

Popper, I've PMed you the URL - can you tell me if you see anything? Grc is still showing the ports as stealthed and if I try and access it from here I just get the rother page all the time.

popper 13-11-2006 17:25

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
tryed at 5.07pm and nothing, couldnt ping the named url eather, was it running then?, perhaps your ip no might work. see pm

i could ping the url, silly me forgot to remove the / at the end lol , so was the webserver up and running then an just now? 5.47pm

the name gets translated to the ip but not reachable btw so i assume you didnt have it running.
---------- Post added at 17:25 ---------- Previous post was at 17:17 ----------

with the rebol webserver running can you get to it locally i.e http://localhost:80 or :8080 or :3128 depending on what port you set it to as you ran it?, doesnt make sense that your getting to see you routers url as that wouldnt be the local url 127.0.0.1 but rather at presumably 192.168.*.* or 10.0.*.* perhaps.

popper 15-11-2006 04:15

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
i just noticed "It works!" off the named url

LOL, so was it the wrong ip no? and put some rebol messageboard stuff there :)

Shaun 15-11-2006 20:38

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Removed Rebol and replaced it with Apache just while I got the routing issues sorted and as you saw "it works". Will figure our Rebol when I have five min but I just couldn't get my head around the config :dunce:

Looks like the routing and port forwarding on my router is working now. Just need to spend time working out how to get the software working. The bits for my server arrived today but I'm not having much luck with them. I fear getting the components to work together will take most of my spare time up over the next few days.

Thanks for the help though popper. It's much appreciated. :)

jimbob123 01-12-2006 19:57

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Hi Will Apache run multi website and is it as easy to configure

Regards

jimbob

handyman 01-12-2006 20:29

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Easy depends on your experience. I run serveral web sites including some quite complex db based ones and I'm not sure I'm upto running my own server. I use a reseller account on i-web solutions which auto creates most stuff and is very easy to admin. For £2 a month i-web will sort you out with a full and proper webspace.

If you fancy a trial I can set you up a test account on mine if you have a domain, if not i can create you a temp test -subdomain.

jimbob123 01-12-2006 20:36

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Hi got a webserver up and running using abyss with help from this forum now
ready for the next project and what to try multi sites

Regards

jimbob

AbyssUnderground 02-12-2006 10:41

Re: Your own web server for free !
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jimbob123 (Post 34170535)
Hi got a webserver up and running using abyss with help from this forum now
ready for the next project and what to try multi sites

Regards

jimbob

Multiple domains is only available in the paid X2 version of Abyss without the use of the virtual hosting script which does the job, but its not the same as real multiple sites.


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