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kronas 20-07-2006 00:10

do i need a router
 
hi, in my old pc i had a wireless card, what i was thinking of doing was putting it in my new pc and connecting (wirelessly) to my nokia N91, is that possible, or do i need a router ?

Gareth 20-07-2006 00:15

Re: do i need a router
 
Not sure about hooking up a Nokia phone... only ever used infrared to connect my mobile. However, you would need a router (more specifically, you'd actually need a wireless access point, but all wireless routers are by definition wireless access points too!) for your PC's wireless NIC to talk to anything else - it can't talk directly to other wireless NICs.

kronas 20-07-2006 00:19

Re: do i need a router
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gareth
Not sure about hooking up a Nokia phone... only ever used infrared to connect my mobile. However, you would need a router (more specifically, you'd actually need a wireless access point, but all wireless routers are by definition wireless access points too!) for your PC's wireless NIC to talk to anything else - it can't talk directly to other wireless NICs.

noooooooooo.... i wanted it be wireless right now :( anyhoo what do you suggest would be a cheap, but high preformance/compatible/ feature rich router ? that i can plug my modem cable in to and use a wired connection for pc to have access to the net and wireless for the phone to access the net ?

Gareth 20-07-2006 00:27

Re: do i need a router
 
Well, I've only ever used 2 different ones... the Linksys WRT54G which will set you back about £40ish or the Cisco Aironet which costs a helluva lot more.

Just to reiterate, I've never tried connecting a mobile phone to a wireless AP... didn't even think you could do it, so someone else will have to help you with that part, I'm afraid.

edit: just realised... that'd be bluetooth. So it is possible, but I've never done it.

kronas 20-07-2006 00:34

Re: do i need a router
 
not bluetooth

WLAN Wi-Fi 802.11b/g

http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_n91-1154.php


so the Linksys WRT54G will do ?

Chris W 20-07-2006 00:38

Re: do i need a router
 
is there any reason why you cannot setup an adhoc network between the two devices?

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*moved to Networking forum

Enuff 20-07-2006 00:39

Re: do i need a router
 
How do u rate the n91? I'm still waiting for the n93.

kronas 20-07-2006 00:39

Re: do i need a router
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris W
is there any reason why you cannot setup an adhoc network between the two devices?

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*moved to Networking forum

sorry about the wrong section :(

adhoc ? how ?

Gareth 20-07-2006 00:39

Re: do i need a router
 
Blimey, that's neat... didn't realise phones could connect directly via 802.11.

Should work fine... can't think why it wouldn't.

kronas 20-07-2006 00:43

Re: do i need a router
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Dodger444
How do u rate the n91?

i like it, tis a bit buggy though, but thats typical of nokia phones :D it does what it says, check out the specs.... in the link a few posts above.

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all i want to do is access the internet on it, GPRS is way too expensive!

Enuff 20-07-2006 01:00

Re: do i need a router
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by kronas
i like it, tis a bit buggy though, but thats typical of nokia phones :D it does what it says, check out the specs.... in the link a few posts above.

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all i want to do is access the internet on it, GPRS is way too expensive!

It should be fairly streight forward to access the net via wifi there should be an option in the phones settings to search for wireless access pionts. I've seen it done on a couple of other phones.

kronas 20-07-2006 02:10

Re: do i need a router
 
well i just put the wireless card in pc and it says

wireless connection unavailable :eek:

what do i do ?

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ok it says wireless connection unavailable and it has the red x i go through the asus utility and it says no networks, its in ad-hoc mode, but the network shows up in my phone, yet i cant do anything! :(

the asus utility also says 'not linked'

hmmm....

pop80_uk 20-07-2006 12:39

Re: do i need a router
 
Yes you would need a wireless router but I think the N91 has its own wireless device so it would not need to be ported through a PC then and could access the internet directly through the wireless router much the same as a PSP does etc.
Hope this helps.

Graham M 20-07-2006 13:26

Re: do i need a router
 
It doesnt Pop :)

Slyder 22-07-2006 16:34

Re: do i need a router
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gareth
Not sure about hooking up a Nokia phone... only ever used infrared to connect my mobile. However, you would need a router (more specifically, you'd actually need a wireless access point, but all wireless routers are by definition wireless access points too!) for your PC's wireless NIC to talk to anything else - it can't talk directly to other wireless NICs.

I was able to use the webbrowser on my psp using my wireless card as an AP without a wireless router just fine. :)

Gareth 22-07-2006 17:56

Re: do i need a router
 
Really, blimey that's impressive. Everything I've tried (admittedly old kit) wouldn't communicate without a dedicated AP. :(

I stand corrected :)

Graham M 22-07-2006 18:18

Re: do i need a router
 
Alright if youve got a spare Wireless Card laying around :)

Druchii 22-07-2006 20:37

Re: do i need a router
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeph
Alright if youve got a spare Wireless Card laying around :)

Yep, i have one just sitting there dormant in my draw... However i don't have a WiFi enabled phone ;)

Slyder 23-07-2006 10:02

Re: do i need a router
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Gareth
Really, blimey that's impressive. Everything I've tried (admittedly old kit) wouldn't communicate without a dedicated AP. :(

I stand corrected :)

It was a real pain to setup thou. The driver for the wireless card ment it could be used as an AP or as a proper wireless card. You could only use one mode at a time and It killed my wired lan on 2 other computers so I quickly went with a decent wireless router. Plus having the wireless card in my main rig ment loosing 2 usb ports as I ran out of PCI slots, so I regained them.

Much better solution in the end... so I think were both right. A Wirless router would be the nicest solution. :)


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