How to achieve anonymity from ntl?
 

Hi all,

I would like total anonymity from ntl not becuase I visit porn or anything. I just dont want ntl keeping records of all my net activity for reasons I cannot go in to.

How do I do this?

Is it through using proxies that are NOT controlled by ntl? If so what proxy to use?

ultimate anonymity service here - http://www.ultimate-anonymity.com/signup.htm looks ideal and is only a one off fee of £30!

Anyone use that? Could I use firefox browser through it?

What are the pro's and cons of it?

Thanks.

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Pro's - if it works, anonnymous web browsing

Con's - um $30.

Unless you are breaking the law with your web browsing then they a pointless waste of money IMO ............

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yeah but what is the technicalities behind it?

is it just a case of browising through a proxy not controlled by ntl to attain anonymity?

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Have you read the site, does it tell you ?

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no not really.

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There is millions of people who use NTL unless you do something to make yourself stand out like leeching hundreds of GB's, then you won't have anyone watching you.

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lets just say I look at information certain elements in the government would prefer the people to remain ignorant about.

nothing illegal about the nature of the information althought with all this new freedom eroding legislation being shuffled through under the justification of "anti-terrorism", a lot of the information I look at can now be classed under their definition of "terrorist activites" but I'll tell you one thing, ANYTHING nowadays can potentially come under the THEIR definition of terrorist.

So basically, I want to ensure that I do not get in to legal trouble for looking at information that is utterly harmless yet can potentially come under anti terror laws - becuase it's meant to be that way becuase they want a police state.

Do you understand me?

Some examples of information that can now come under the definition of "terrorist activiteis"...

http://www.threeworldwars.com/index.html
http://s13.invisionfree.com/THE_UNHIVED_MIND/
www.rinf.com

... basically anything that presents a view that contradicts the "official line".

Like I said, harmless, and I do not want to potentially get in trouble for viewing it.

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Well looking at your reasons posted above, and the content of materials that you yourself have admitted could be deemed of a 'terrorist nature' ( I didn't click a link, in case, you know, a knock at the door ;) ) I don't think it would be wise for anyone to tell you how or if it could be done, these are dangerous times we live in and these measures are in place to try and protect us, maybe, just maybe if you had a few more than your 17 posts, and we knew you a bit better from your time here, but who knows :shrug: :2cents:

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Somehow I think that as long as IP packets are passing through NTL's network then anything you look can be traced and recorded.

Encrypted, Anonymised etc, no barrier, i'm sure GCHQ, MI5, MI6 etc have the technology to "undo" these things if they need to.

Also as has been said before, i'm sure there's more people than you looking at such material, and also some poeple looking at material a lot worse.

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Correct. In this day and age there is NO such thing as total anonymity. If it can be passed from 1 router to another it can be read. The Government can get any information they want if they need it. A site that charges $30.00 to protect you will be no good if the full weight of GCHQ and other sections of the intelligence dept's decided they want to know what you are doing.

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try

http://anon.inf.tu-dresden.de/index_en.html

or this

http://tor.eff.org/index.html.en

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Methinks the word "paranoid" fits well in this thread..

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I don't think so. Why do I have to allow Magic Latern or Carnivore spying on me or anyone else? Why Mcafee and Symantec agree not to detect FBI spyware? Will Mcafee and Symantec agree to cover up, if the French Intelligence service developed similar spyware?

Is FBI spyware good and cydoor bad?

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Would you rather people be allowed to freely distribute information that can be used to create weapons or cause massive loss of life?
There will always be a need to monitor information being passed around the internet as long as there are people passing bomb instructions, chemical weapons information, diagrams, blueprints etc around.
I personally think anyone that decries the use of keyword scanning on email or internet traffic should wake up and smell the reality of the world we now live in.

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If leet haxors cannot decrypt methods of encrypting, I don't see why any given agency can when its just a game of numbers and letters. It isn't like using the friggin enigma.

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I think that answer confirms my view quite nicely. :)

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Thanks for info guys and don't be fooled by the so called terrorist threat. It's absolutely non-existant, all terrorist attacks are egnineered by the top levels of the security services to create chaos so they can gain the excuse to implment a police state.

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https://www.cableforum.co.uk/images/local/2006/03/8.gif

£30 for total anonymity? Someone call Gary Glitter!

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Can i recommend THIS or THIS

Me i gave up years ago on all this conspiracy stuff and just let life flow past me now :)

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Now what was Paul M saying again? Something about paranoia...?

Actually, I think what you said is extremely offensive to the many not so non-existant people who have died in terrorist attacks, by the very not so non-existant terrorists.

If this country is such police state, can I ask kindly that you please p**s off to somewhere that isn't? Any other country will do so long as its not this one.

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lol man those some ****e there, lol.

I research the black nobility of Europe and how they control all levels of society, industry, banking ect and their agenda to bring a one world gascist global superstate with them at the top of it all.

It's not reall a conspiracy theory since the facts are there in plain sight its just that 99% of people only get their information from the mainstream media which is controlled by them themselves!


Offensive? What on earth are you talking about?

Whats offensive to me is you swallowing the official line of events without thought, like most people do.

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Without thought? With evidence more like. And more more evidence than you can produce to support your extremely paranoid, dillusional conspiracy theories.

And thank you for insulting me by calling me gullible & ignorant.

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Just for a laugh:-

http://illuminati-news.com/black-nobility.htm

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LOL, sorry, that's the best laugh I've had in a long time :):):)

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Do you think this will protect me ?.

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Ha, you watch the news and you ASSUME they are telling you the truth.

They tell you the world is triangular and you and 99% of people will beleive it. Without evidence or anything, just their word. Do not dispute that.

No problen, it's true.

And you must of spent a lot of your time investigating my claims to end up determining them to be simply "paranoid, dulusional conspiracy theories" - NOT - you just go by your slide reaction...

you hear the phrase conspiracy theory and out goes your logical thought process and in comes a pre-concieved slide which becomes your thoughts.

A word of advice, look in to what I'm saying, THEN make your decision.

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Well let's see...

Aluminum is proven to stop HAARP and certain radio frequencies in their tracks so, um, yeah, I should prevent the waves from affecting your brain.

Ohhhhhhh but you have a pre-concieved slide that associates tin foil hats with mental people so out goes your logical thought process and in comes that slide and thus, your reeaction.

Thanks for the example.

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And whats even more hilarious is you don't beleive it when it's fact.

Are you really saying the black nobility dont exists? It's no secret.

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And here was me thinking of having a afternoon snozz, But now my afternoon is so much more fun ?.

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Glad to hear it, now go and research "state sponsored terrorism".

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It gets better:-

http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/black.htm

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biblebeleivers, lol.

Do'nt trust anything that comes from anything that subscribes to a religion, dogma or a beleif system.... 9 time sout of 10 the **** they spurt is severly edited by the dogma they hold.

GO for neatrul people who hold no opinions or beliefs like Dr. John Coleman, Dr. Michael Parenti, Eric Phelpsl, Jordan Maxwell.... google those names and listen to what they have to say.

watch michael parentie's lecture - http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...1&q=conspiracy

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The only sad part of this is how quickly this guy is dismissed as being crazy, especially considering how little research anyone has done into what he's saying.

I'm not saying he's right or he's wrong however there's rarely smoke without fire and the steady erosion of civil liberties is fairly clear for all to see.

All I'm saying is show tolerance to this guy's views even if they are so completely opposite to yours.

Punky what you said, even though no doubt it got green repped like crazy, was out of order. I'm not a huge fan of this country which is why I'm leaving this **** hole at the earliest opportunity for somewhere I can walk down the street without being harrassed by the chavs my huge taxes support (just to name one issue).

All too easy to accuse people of being paranoid, wrong, etc, I haven't seen anyone who can catagorically prove the guy is wrong either. A few google searches, yeah that proves it all doesn't it? We've already seen slowly unravelling how much BS the govt feeds us.

Either way insults were out of order. He's not the only person who wants this anonymity, else sites offering the service wouldn't exist, would they?

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Thanks Ignition and yeah, there is never smoke without fire and it's not like I;m sitting in a dark room all day and night thinking this stuff up and say "ah now that must be what is happening in the world"!

The incremental ersosion of our liberties is not to protect us it is to implement the fascist state and eventally the global government which will centralize the EU, NAC, AU and PA in to a single global superstate.

Basically, glboalization but the not the watered down bull**** that students and so called experts are fed.

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Ahh, its like you have known me all my life :rolleyes: What I actually do is read, digest, research, think and conclude. Sometimes I come to the same conclusion as the government, sometimes I don't.

You assume all terrorist attacks are the result of some government-borne conspiracy. Remember what you said? "all terrorist attacks are egnineered by the top levels of the security services"? Sounds like you are the one who assumes everything and fails to critically analyse the events happening around you. I'd like to hear how David Copeland was engineered by the government to support what theory of yours then?


More than lead, like in your roof, I suppose :dozey: ?

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How about I VPN solution, secure and sure there are some companies out there that provide it, there is also the Onion Project (tor).

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punky, I'm not saying terrorists are not involve, what I'm saying is that they are ALLOWED to do what they do by the security/intelligence services.

It's called problem-reaction-solution and order out of chaos.

They create problems and chaos and then they offer solutions which benifit their interests in the treaties fixed and counter-legislation, executive laws and such.

Just look...

IRA bombings in England - erosion of civil freedoms and privacy and increase in civil serveilance/control

7/7 21/7 London bombings - ID card, more erosion of freedom privacy and massive consolitation of power and decision making.

911 - same

WACO - same

Oklahama bombings - same

Dunblane massacre - same

Funny how all those events can be proven to of been engineered by the powers that be.

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I'd like to see how you justify that last sentence!

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Thanks.

VPN looks ideal but whats onion project? Google dident retrun anything of use.

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Easy.

The Black Nobility of Europe who control the IMF, World Bank, Bank of England, U.S Federal Reserve and every other major bank like it around the world.

Control of money and credit supply = control of the world on every level.

90% of the world wealth is in the hands of the House of Rothschild, the Windsor royals, the Morgan-Rockefeller partnership and a few other major balck nobility families.

But ignore that becuase it's just crap that I make out of thin air :rolleyes:


Watch this video for an understanding of how the world really is - http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...jordan+maxwell

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Now you really are on another planet. :rolleyes:

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Right:

1) I haven't recieved one rep, neither green nor red for any comments in this thread

2) I haven't said he's not allowed to say what he has been saying, but I reserve the right to call it offensive and BOTHO. The only thing I have said is that he maybe should consider the feelings of people whose relatives have died through terrorist attacks. Not unreasonable, i'd thought.

3) Errosion of civil liberties and abuse of citizens by a government is a world away from what he was saying. He was saying ALL terrorist attacks are engineered by governments and that there are no such things are terrorists who want to harm the government or its citizens. Bit of a difference.

4) Never once has even provided even the slightest hint of any kind of proof of his extremely outlandish claims. Therefore there isn't even any smoke, let alone a fire. Am I supposed to believe him without any sort of evidence? Isn't that as bad as automatically believing the government?

5) I am sorry you think I was out of order. That is never my intention. However, its easier to sit back and bitch than to do something about it. If you don't like the situation, change it. At least my family did something about it. Criticising the government is one thing, but if someone shares the opinions of d3v and have such a hatred, then its about time they put their opinions where their mouth is. Again, this is entirely option on their part.

6) Bottom line is, i'll believe a conspiracy theory if someone could actually prove it.

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You said 'can be proven'. Even if the above were true, it doesn't in any remote shape or form justify your earlier claim.

Onion project:-

http://tor.eff.org/index.html

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Have you looked at the version of events BESIDES the official line????

Do you realise that there are dozens of intelligence/security people and government people who believe 911 was engineered by top elements within the security services in America?

The truth is coming out and not just by conspiracy theorists right now and people need to get infofmed becuase this globalization process will be complete in only a matter of a few years.

It's not an event far far away, my friend, and if you value your freedom and way of life as it is now you will get informed and inform others.

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Evidence?

Anyone can make up conspiracy theories, but not many can prove them (Watergate, etc)

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If you want proof, get your news from www.rinf.com and like I said earlier, google for Dr. Michael Parenti, Dr. John Coleman, Jordan Maxwell... all of those people say the same thing and know the truth of things.

What makes you think I sit and bitch and not doing anything about it? Most of my money goes in to exposing the black nobilities control over the world wealth and thus, control over the world and thus, OUR LIVES!

Evidence: Look above.

People do not "make" conspiracy theories. Your idea of conspiracy theories and theorists is the classic cliche image which is utterly flawed and false.

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What version would that be then - the one where a top secret government agent decided to shoot a load of children in a scottish school and blame it on a local nutter - presumably to give them an excuse to ban hand guns ? I take it Hungerford was also another such agent, and staged to allow the banning of semi-automatic rifles .... Hmmm .... right :dozey:

So what ? There are a lot of people who think the moon is made of cheese :nutter:

I'm not your friend, if I were i'd advise you to see a shrink.

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Sorr d3v, you aren't helping your cause here.

If anyone doesn't believe you 100% you assume they are gullible, ignorant and swallow the government line 100%. You are worse than your opinion of people who disagree with what you say.

Its hard to take you seriously. Actually... Are here under the government's orders to discredit conspiracy theorists? :scratch:

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...and you seriously call that proof of anything?

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Bored now. Off topic. Mod, please shift it somewhere else.

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I was tempted to move it to humour, but Current Affairs will do for now.

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That's not proof, that's name dropping. Your quote is proof of what exactly? Proof that you know who they are?

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Talk about pots, kettles and black!

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Ever read "How to get a thread closed" by d3v? ;) better get a copy now before the men in black take them away :erm:

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ADMIN EDIT (Russ) Pointless and offensive post removed.

d3v if an admin removes your post you do NOT post over it.

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Keep it civil or this gets locked down and posting rights get removed.

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Nice sound bites there, who did you hear using them? By the way, ROFL? Grow up.
You tell us to stop believing what we are being told or are being led to believe and yet you are spewing nothing that you can back up with any basic proof. Who is the sheep in reality????

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Oh dear, asking for proof seems to have touched a nerve. Time for closure, methinks.

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You want proof?

Whats the character limit in this forum?

I've told you the names to google so whats the problem?

Look....

go to www.google.com

copy the names I told you to google

past the names in to google search bar

hit enter

click on the URL's that come up starting from the top working to the bottom.

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Why should we Google it when you declare YOU know the TRUTH??? Tell us your great theory and prove us wrong or is just a case of you don't know what you are talking about but are keen to try and back up your claims by just dropping names into posts????

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:tu:

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So your saying your lazy?

I've already stated the basic overall thesis and now it's up to you to research further.

There is no excuse for you to continue in your state of blissfull ignorance.

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Who the hell are the black nobilty? Also why on earth do you care about anonymity when you have just posted the sites you visit and your views on a popular internet forum? Smart move

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