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Gavin78 21-05-2012 16:40

stopping a company from calling?
 
In the last 3 days I have had a withheld number calling me asking for a mr bolan or boland etc

Its an indian accent I have told them already that its the wrong number and they gave me the address I told them it was the wrong address they I live at a different one...so they keep calling about 10x a day starting at 7am and going right through till about 2am

I've told them everytime to stop calling and asked to speak to the manager which results in them hanging up.

Today first time ever they actually called with a number when I tried to ring that number back it said "sorry wrong number"

This is becoming a real pain and I dont want to block withheld numbers as I work for the NHS when I ring home or they need to contact me it automatically withholds the number as they need to push 9 to ring out.

I am sometimes on call with the acute team so may be called in should there be an emergency.

What can VM do to stop these calls if I give them a call

Peter_ 21-05-2012 18:22

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Nothing as the company is calling from outside of the UK, you would get the same response form BT and these companies know this and play on it.

v0id 21-05-2012 18:48

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I find shouting angrily down the phone at persistant wrong numbers usually stops them from calling

devilincarnate 21-05-2012 19:07

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Just say that Mr Bolan died 16 September 1977?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marc_Bolan

I have done this before with other surnames and it seems to stop them?

FairyFairy 21-05-2012 22:18

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What about the old trick of blowing a whistle ........ they wouldn't be so keen to phone back again!!!!!!!!!!

Ken W 21-05-2012 22:21

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Quote:

Originally Posted by FairyFairy (Post 35431304)
What about the old trick of blowing a whistle ........ they wouldn't be so keen to phone back again!!!!!!!!!!

Or a foot ball rattle:redcard:

progers 22-05-2012 01:38

Re: stopping a company from calling?
 
Or an app called CallZapper if you have iPhone, iPad or probably iPod

It's great fun too!

jempalmer 22-05-2012 01:47

Re: stopping a company from calling?
 
I'm not sure that this is really helping Gavin78. Seems to be a really genuine cause for distress given that he works for the NHS. If my understanding of "Acute" is correct then it's serious. Does anyone have some sensible suggestions please?

berkut 22-05-2012 03:38

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Given that the chances are they are calling from abroad there is really only 1 serious option available if you cannot block number withheld and that is to change your telephone number.

Normally if you ask to change numbers I believe you get charged for it, but if you are suffering from nuisance calls they will not charge you.

We suffered from nuisance calls and did not want to change so had to opt for blocking incoming number withheld, but that does not work in all instances. We were offered a number change but chose not to, but that can have its own difficulties as well as you may get a recycled number that someone with bad credit had before you which could mean debt collectors calling you.

There is no easy answer to this unfortunately

Peter_ 22-05-2012 10:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jempalmer (Post 35431381)
I'm not sure that this is really helping Gavin78. Seems to be a really genuine cause for distress given that he works for the NHS. If my understanding of "Acute" is correct then it's serious. Does anyone have some sensible suggestions please?

This will stop them but at a price and it does actually work.

http://www.truecall.co.uk/

Quote:

trueCall is the complete solution to all types of nuisance phone call - telemarketing, silent calls, calls from overseas call centres, fax calls, robocalls, market researchers, malicious calls, misdials, wrong numbers and recorded message calls.

trueCall is about the size of a paperback book. It plugs into your phone line at home and checks every call you receive before letting your phone ring.

Patented technology, designed and developed in the UK!

Gavin78 22-05-2012 18:31

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Thanks for the help I'm thinking of considering it...I'm going to ring the company on Thursday for some advice about it.

jodash 24-05-2012 11:24

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how can you block witheld numbers?

Gavin78 24-05-2012 14:47

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I think with virgin you have to pay for it not much about £1.75 a month or so. you'll have to contact them to add it to your account

---------- Post added at 13:47 ---------- Previous post was at 13:46 ----------

unless your home phone has the ability built in...mine does I can blacklist numbers I dont like

Rainman 24-05-2012 15:06

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I also have receive calls from what sounds like an indian bloke to say theres some thing wrong with my computer, and I have also tried all the tricks but they still ring back.
It got that bad one day with more than 10 calls so I ask for there number to call them back and they gave me it. When I ring it they did answer and yet still saying my computer will shut down.
I now found this site to report things like this www.actionfraud.org.uk give it ago see if they can help

jodash 24-05-2012 15:29

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin78 (Post 35432332)
I think with virgin you have to pay for it not much about £1.75 a month or so. you'll have to contact them to add it to your account

---------- Post added at 13:47 ---------- Previous post was at 13:46 ----------

unless your home phone has the ability built in...mine does I can blacklist numbers I dont like

thanks, but £1.75 on top of a all ready heavy bill will give it a miss
blacklist MIL mmmm

:D

Peter_ 24-05-2012 17:13

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin78 (Post 35432332)
I think with virgin you have to pay for it not much about £1.75 a month or so. you'll have to contact them to add it to your account

---------- Post added at 13:47 ---------- Previous post was at 13:46 ----------

unless your home phone has the ability built in...mine does I can blacklist numbers I dont like

That will not work in cases like this where no number is sent from the incoming phone, you would be wasting money, also your phone would be ineffective as well as it needs to see the number in order to block it.;)

Mr K 24-05-2012 22:28

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Never give your phone no. out is always a good idea; especially your land line. Apart from close relatives, and for financial fraud checks (i.e. credit card companies/ your bank) , no need for anyone else to have it. Always take time to make sure you opt out of all marketing and register with TPS. If anybody your are buying something from demands your phone no., just give them 01234567890. If you have to give a number given them a mobile no. (which you can always switch off), or a work number (they can talk to me all day at work if they want ;) )They'll just flog it on if you do give them your home number. I do all this and never get any of these types of calls. Once you get on a marketing list you've had it. It amazes me how people are so lax with their personal info., and then complain they get these calls.

Mick Fisher 25-05-2012 13:44

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr K (Post 35432525)
Never give your phone no. out is always a good idea; especially your land line. Apart from close relatives, and for financial fraud checks (i.e. credit card companies/ your bank) , no need for anyone else to have it. Always take time to make sure you opt out of all marketing and register with TPS. If anybody your are buying something from demands your phone no., just give them 01234567890. If you have to give a number given them a mobile no. (which you can always switch off), or a work number (they can talk to me all day at work if they want ;) )They'll just flog it on if you do give them your home number. I do all this and never get any of these types of calls. Once you get on a marketing list you've had it. It amazes me how people are so lax with their personal info., and then complain they get these calls.

Excellent advice.

Apart from investing in a Truecall device I think the next best thing is a new phone with answerphone and call barring built in.

I have all the VM spammers, Barclays Bank spammers, Sky spammers, BT spammers and the inevitable selection debt collection nuisances eternally asking for unknown people on my calls barred list and leave the answerphone to deal with the withelds and overseas carp.

I'm happy to say, after a short while, it seems most get the message and give up. :)

Gavin78 26-05-2012 19:36

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Well I never gave my number out these people started to call me out of the blue....the wife got the phone a couple of days ago while I was at work and gave them a few words they haven't called back since

TheNorm 27-05-2012 19:08

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rainman (Post 35432340)
I also have receive calls from what sounds like an indian bloke to say theres some thing wrong with my computer,...

When he rang me I said "Which computer? There are five in the house."

He said "The one which you first used to connect to your ISP."

I said "Oh, you mean the one in the garage that hasn't been switched on for a year?"

He eventually gave up and I've never been bothered again.

nebudchadnezzar 04-06-2012 21:49

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I find the best way is to pretend to be a police officer attending the scene of a murder and ask them who they are etc, you would laugh at how fast they hang up and most of the time they dont call back !

Mick Fisher 05-06-2012 13:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by nebudchadnezzar (Post 35436973)
I find the best way is to pretend to be a police officer attending the scene of a murder and ask them who they are etc, you would laugh at how fast they hang up and most of the time they dont call back !

:D

neilo 21-06-2012 12:02

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No. I do NOT want to make a PPI claim!!!!!!

Pauls9 21-06-2012 13:40

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But what about claiming for that accident you had - obviously led to loss of memory since you can't remember it!

jodash 22-06-2012 12:02

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having recently got Virgin to block witheld calls at a monthly cost £2.70 pm maybe i will look at truecall

---------- Post added at 11:02 ---------- Previous post was at 11:00 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gavin78 (Post 35433279)
Well I never gave my number out these people started to call me out of the blue....the wife got the phone a couple of days ago while I was at work and gave them a few words they haven't called back since

my wifes few words last for hours so they would never phone back!

Peter_ 22-06-2012 12:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jodash (Post 35444935)
having recently got Virgin to block witheld calls at a monthly cost £2.70 pm maybe i will look at truecall

That only stops calls from within the UK not outside which is where Truecall comes into its element..

Gary L 22-06-2012 15:34

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I'd personally just get a phone that can block any number you put in its block list. and then you don't hear it ring at your end. only they hear it ringing.

I have about 14 numbers in mine, and never hear a sound from any of them. even though they're still calling.

Peter_ 22-06-2012 16:07

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary L (Post 35445001)
I'd personally just get a phone that can block any number you put in its block list. and then you don't hear it ring at your end. only they hear it ringing.

I have about 14 numbers in mine, and never hear a sound from any of them. even though they're still calling.

You do realise that the calls we are talking about do not send any numbers as they are usually foreign and for the extra few pounds the Truecaller device actually works with any call and is like a virtual secretary.

TheDaddy 24-06-2012 04:58

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Peter_ (Post 35431432)
This will stop them but at a price and it does actually work.

http://www.truecall.co.uk/

Think I saw that a while back on Dragons Den.

Why don't you google the number Gavin, see if that sheds anymore light on the company or reveals another number you can call them on, also can't you block international calls anymore or are they routed through the UK to bypass this these days.

Peter_ 24-06-2012 09:30

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheDaddy (Post 35445672)

Why don't you google the number Gavin, see if that sheds anymore light on the company or reveals another number you can call them on, also can't you block international calls anymore or are they routed through the UK to bypass this these days.

That can be like clicking an email they then know the number you are ringing from is a live one so they may use it to callback, being Devils Advocate here.;)

tex 24-06-2012 10:46

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hi there,
i have been getting the same calls.
my son told me to go a site called tps its free and easy to use. they will block calls .
tex

Peter_ 24-06-2012 11:27

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Quote:

Originally Posted by tex (Post 35445691)
hi there,
i have been getting the same calls.
my son told me to go a site called tps its free and easy to use. they will block calls .
tex

They will only block calls originating in the UK not ones from outside the UK especially if they do not transmit a phone number as they will always get through.

Kymmy 24-06-2012 11:35

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TPS don't block any calls.. all they do is publish a no call list that all UK companies should abide by.. It still won't stop non-UK nor will it stop the usual "I'm not selling but doing market research" excuse that a lot of companies are trying on people to get their details/interest in their products/services..

rogerhume 28-06-2012 21:34

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I thought barring numbers that are anonymous would help stop a lot of nuisance calls but virgin want nearly £3 a month to actvate it
TPS is a wate of time as you can't report companies that don't leave a number
BT here I come

Peter_ 28-06-2012 23:47

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rogerhume (Post 35447671)
I thought barring numbers that are anonymous would help stop a lot of nuisance calls but virgin want nearly £3 a month to actvate it
TPS is a wate of time as you can't report companies that don't leave a number
BT here I come

You will find that you will have exactly the same issue with BT as they are in exactly the same boat in that they cannot prevent these calls either as the companies involved know not to send an id which would be blocked.

Check out the BT forums for the exact same issues.

I find it hilarious that people actually think that by going to a different provider they will get away from these calls.

What they tend to forget is that the are no new numbers out there so you are likely to get one that may have been used by someone with a poor credit history and are surprised to get calls from debt collection agencies.

My daughter got a line from BT recently and had to get it changed a week later because of such calls, you could be jumping from the frying pan into the fire.

rogerhume 28-06-2012 23:54

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You are right BT charge even more than virgin
My gripe is that it was free

danielf 28-06-2012 23:54

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rogerhume (Post 35447671)
TPS is a wate of time as you can't report companies that don't leave a number

I wouldn't call TPS a waste of time at all. The number of unsolicited calls we receive reduced dramatically after we registered with the TPS. And if (UK) companies call you, they are generally off the phone the moment you mention the TPS. India, not so much, but UK yes. As it happens I received a rare call from a UK company this week, and he pretty hung up without a saying another word when I mentioned TPS.

Peter_ 29-06-2012 00:19

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rogerhume (Post 35447727)
You are right BT charge even more than virgin
My gripe is that it was free

It does not stop the type of call the thread is about so a waste of money.

buckleb 01-07-2012 20:03

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Truecall, as mentioned earlier in the thread, is a slightly expensive but absolutely effective device. I've had mine for over a year and I have not had a single spam call get through. Prior to buying this we were plagued by unwanted calls at all hours of the day.

In addition you can browse your call history online, look up any unknown numbers, and then add them to your star/zap lists (if they go in your zap list they are told to get lost if they ring again).

Gary L 01-07-2012 21:38

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I have Virgin media down on my list. they're constantly calling me. and they're getting a constant ringing out in return. I'm on TPS too.

08000522160

is this in the UK

rogerhume 01-07-2012 23:51

Re: stopping a company from calling?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by buckleb (Post 35448610)
Truecall, as mentioned earlier in the thread, is a slightly expensive but absolutely effective device. I've had mine for over a year and I have not had a single spam call get through. Prior to buying this we were plagued by unwanted calls at all hours of the day.

In addition you can browse your call history online, look up any unknown numbers, and then add them to your star/zap lists (if they go in your zap list they are told to get lost if they ring again).

Presumably you have to subscibe to caller display for this to work

buckleb 02-07-2012 21:59

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rogerhume (Post 35448672)
Presumably you have to subscibe to caller display for this to work

Yes that's right, you do need caller display for this to work.

Begize 05-07-2012 07:43

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Kymmy (Post 35445697)
TPS don't block any calls.. all they do is publish a no call list that all UK companies should abide by.. It still won't stop non-UK nor will it stop the usual "I'm not selling but doing market research" excuse that a lot of companies are trying on people to get their details/interest in their products/services..

Market Research companies in the UK are supposed to use the TPS dont call list too so that excuse is rubbish.

arcimedes 05-07-2012 10:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Begize (Post 35449844)
Market Research companies in the UK are supposed to use the TPS dont call list too so that excuse is rubbish.

Not according to what is on the TPS website

i.e. "As TPS registration only prevents marketing calls, organisations will still be able to call you for the purposes of genuine market research"

Also probably depends on what is meant by "organisations". Rather a big loophole I think:D

trickytree 05-07-2012 14:10

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TPS was mentioned on the Panorama programme on Monday night.
Basically it's a free recommended system for the UK but there is nothing legally saying they have to abide by that list.
So it may help a bit but it's not going to completely wipe out cold calling

arcimedes 05-07-2012 16:03

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Quote:

Originally Posted by trickytree (Post 35449937)
TPS was mentioned on the Panorama programme on Monday night.
Basically it's a free recommended system for the UK but there is nothing legally saying they have to abide by that list.
So it may help a bit but it's not going to completely wipe out cold calling

Interesting as TPS say different

"The Telephone Preference Service (TPS) is a free service. It is the official central opt out register on which you can record your preference not to receive unsolicited sales or marketing calls. It is a legal requirement that all organisations (including charities, voluntary organisations and political parties) do not make such calls to numbers registered on the TPS unless they have your consent to do so."

Ben Rhydding 05-07-2012 20:50

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I have the Truecall box that another helper mentioned. It has many options on screening calls so it should be possible to block all such calls or put them on hold and you can decide whether to accept or not.

Chris


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