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jb7	11-04-2010 03:18

Virgin 50mb - 49.5mb wired, 24mb wireless (next to router),8mb wireless (upstairs) :(

is there any way I can make this faster? I have WPA2 set up, after messing about with the channels I find that channel 1 is the fastest (probably because most my neighbours have channel 6). My router also allows me to choose an "extension channel", which it automatically selects as 5

so, any idea how to make the wireless faster? I am using a macbook pro 13inch 2009, that has a wireless N wifi card. Virgin gave their own router, a dlink dir-615. It has 2 antenna's and costs about Â£30. I am currently using my own router, a belkin F5D8232-4 which has 3 antenna's... so surely this should be faster? I have tried the dlink router, and speeds are worse.

What can i do to increase wireless speed?

thanks

Sephiroth

11-04-2010 08:50

Re: Virgin 50mb - 49.5mb wired, 24mb wireless (next to router),8mb wireless (upstairs

Could this be a half-duplex issue?

Ignitionnet

11-04-2010 09:00

Re: Virgin 50mb - 49.5mb wired, 24mb wireless (next to router),8mb wireless (upstairs

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 34998834)

Could this be a half-duplex issue?

Over wireless? No.

OP - Try Channel 11 or 13 if usable.

broadbandking

11-04-2010 09:12

Re: Virgin 50mb - 49.5mb wired, 24mb wireless (next to router),8mb wireless (upstairs

I am sure there is a program you can run and it tells you what channel are currently been used.

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jb7 (Post 34998809)

Wireless will all most give you lower speeds due to signal having to travel and also in some older house there is lead between floor which will slow the signal down.

Nedkelly

11-04-2010 09:23

Re: Virgin 50mb - 49.5mb wired, 24mb wireless (next to router),8mb wireless (upstairs

Some new houses have plaster board with a silver backing to help with heat but does a great job stopping mobile and wireless signals .:)

mjpartyboy

11-04-2010 09:51

Re: Virgin 50mb - 49.5mb wired, 24mb wireless (next to router),8mb wireless (upstairs

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Originally Posted by broadbandking (Post 34998845)

I am sure there is a program you can run and it tells you what channel are currently been used.

inSSIDer and it's a very useful little program.

http://www.metageek.net/products/inssider/

speedfreak

11-04-2010 09:55

Re: Virgin 50mb - 49.5mb wired, 24mb wireless (next to router),8mb wireless (upstairs

Have you set the router to "n" only?

jb7	11-04-2010 22:32

Re: Virgin 50mb - 49.5mb wired, 24mb wireless (next to router),8mb wireless (upstairs

Quote:

Originally Posted by speedfreak (Post 34998868)

Have you set the router to "n" only?

there's no option for N only, and I need the G for my iphone. Wireless mode in router config is 11b + g + n

and yep am on channel 13, majority of neighbours have 6. I now get around 20mb

*sloman*

13-04-2010 18:05

Re: Virgin 50mb - 49.5mb wired, 24mb wireless (next to router),8mb wireless (upstairs

If you want wired speeds without running cable everywhere try homeplugs

The list of things that could be affecting your speed is huge, i get a poor signal in my kitchen i think this is due to the microwave blocking the radio waves, also get poor signal in bedroom due to DECT phone using 2.4Ghz

jb66	13-04-2010 22:34

Re: Virgin 50mb - 49.5mb wired, 24mb wireless (next to router),8mb wireless (upstairs

The router can only do g or n, it can't do both at the same time, so if anything g connects to the router everything falls to g speeds. The way to test this is tell your router to do n only

izools

16-04-2010 19:21

Re: Virgin 50mb - 49.5mb wired, 24mb wireless (next to router),8mb wireless (upstairs

TBH you'll need a very good wireless router indeed to get the full 50Mbit all over your house.

I am currently looking at the Linksys WRT610N. Overclockers.co.uk have an excellent deal on at the moment - and Â£20 cashback if bought before end of April:

http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showpr...source=froogle

The best feature I believe is that you can have your N devices running on the 5GHz spectrum and G devices running on the 2.4GHz spectrum. Stops the G devices slowing down the N devices and also 5GHz is in scarce use so plenty of spare room for your signal to spread it's legs :)

Review I read shows over 100Mbit/sec (just) performance on the Wireless-N 50 feet away!

dogsiwoo

21-05-2010 16:56

Re: Virgin 50mb - 49.5mb wired, 24mb wireless (next to router),8mb wireless (upstairs

Quote:

Originally Posted by jb66 (Post 35000830)

The router can only do g or n, it can't do both at the same time, so if anything g connects to the router everything falls to g speeds. The way to test this is tell your router to do n only

That's pretty annoying - my Father connects wirelessly using his laptop all day everyday (Home Worker) - no wonder I neevr get anywhere near 5-6MB Down on my N PC!

Incey2000

22-05-2010 17:56

Re: Virgin 50mb - 49.5mb wired, 24mb wireless (next to router),8mb wireless (upstairs

Quote:

Originally Posted by jb7 (Post 34999402)

there's no option for N only, and I need the G for my iphone. Wireless mode in router config is 11b + g + n

and yep am on channel 13, majority of neighbours have 6. I now get around 20mb

802.11G has a max data throughput of around 25mbps, if you want to go faster then you'll need N i'd go 5ghz N as you have more channels with less interference.

toonlight

23-05-2010 20:38

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jb7 (Post 34998809)

Well not to sound to smug, jb7 - just go to a wired network, throw out the wireless rubbish :dunce:. It will give you less hassle is setting up a whole network, as you posted it will give you a near full internet speed for what you're paying - wouldn't you like that jb7?:dozey: Oh not forgetting kicking over the lurking freeloaders that maybe using your net connection on wireless while you're not looking.

For me anything wireless(modern) is just plain junk, really a whole idea for printing wasteful money other than anything pre microprocessor is fine like ham radio or CB which works great. :shocked:

pjcoop

24-05-2010 15:32

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I think it's the encryption that slows it down. If you turn that off you'll be right back to 49Mbs on wireless.... but.... obviously nobody (including me) is going to recommend that! Do it as a test (but don't leave it like it).
Paul

pip08456

24-05-2010 15:47

Re: Virgin 50mb - 49.5mb wired, 24mb wireless (next to router),8mb wireless (upstairs

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Originally Posted by Incey2000 (Post 35026253)

802.11G has a max data throughput of around 25mbps, if you want to go faster then you'll need N i'd go 5ghz N as you have more channels with less interference.

Bolton Wanderers?????????? Pleaaaaaaaaaase!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Just got back from Horwich this morning!:D:D:D

danlufan

24-05-2010 15:59

Re: Virgin 50mb - 49.5mb wired, 24mb wireless (next to router),8mb wireless (upstairs

Personally i dont think the encryption would drop you down to 8mbps, as already recommended above;

- Check the channels of neighbouring wireless networks, then use one that isnt being used.
- Remove all G devices from the network (while you test) this should give you an indication if this is effecting your speeds.
- Home setup is always an issue, but a rule of thumb would be to place the router as centrally in the house as possible, staying away from outside walls, router antennas are omni-directional. Note that it should also be kept away from the floor and metal objects (e.g. filing cabinets)
http://www.microsoft.com/athome/setup/wirelesstips.aspx
http://gadgets.softpedia.com/news/Wh...er-119-01.html

tweetiepooh

24-05-2010 16:04

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Channel number can be very odd. I used to run at channel 13 to ensure (nearly) I'd be away from others but now use channel 1 as I got a huge speed increase switching to that number. It maybe to do with how some channels can be handled differently. This was on recommendation from vendor (Belkin).

Sephiroth

24-05-2010 18:13

Re: Virgin 50mb - 49.5mb wired, 24mb wireless (next to router),8mb wireless (upstairs

Something I've noticed. Any wi-fi connected device closer to the router than you will get more bandwidth. Even inches different.

As for encryption, it's in flight and shouldn't be an overhead.

Chrysalis

25-05-2010 16:09

Re: Virgin 50mb - 49.5mb wired, 24mb wireless (next to router),8mb wireless (upstairs

my experience of wireless is that wpa1 noticebly slows it down but wpa2 runs as fast as unencrypted. wpa2 on proper hardware should be hardware accelerated.

Kymmy

25-05-2010 16:23

Re: Virgin 50mb - 49.5mb wired, 24mb wireless (next to router),8mb wireless (upstairs

Moved to Networking as it's nothing to do with the modem

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Quote:

Originally Posted by broadbandking (Post 34998845)

Wireless will all most give you lower speeds due to signal having to travel and also in some older house there is lead between floor which will slow the signal down.

Attenuation of the signal will drop it down and give you a lower SNR. It's the SNR that degrades the recieving capability and then forces the system to renegotiate a lower speed (lower speeds are less suscepitble to errors due to the bit length being longer)

The speeds the OP quotes are they the synced speeds or speeds using a test site/program?? If the first then you'll need to possibly try different channel/position/encryption combinations, if the latter and the sync speeds are showing higher then it's bottlenecking somewhere

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