Who is right here?
 

http://forums.ntlhell.co.uk/index.ph...dpost&p=262926

He claims adslmax is ADSL2+.
I told him its standard ADSL and well he dont believe me.

So who is right?

Re: Who is right here?
 

You are.

ADSL Max is basically when LLU is enabled on the line meaning that it "unlocks" the 2 Mb/s cap meaning you just get as much as your signal allows.

ADSL2+ doubles the number of downstream bits cf standard ADSL meaning the connection speed can be doubled regardless of where you are.

With ADSL Max, if you can only get 1 Mb because of the line, you will only get 1 Mb, on ADSL2+ you will get 2.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADSL2%2B
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADSL_Max

Re: Who is right here?
 

Thank you.

Bloody ntl Employees ;)

Re: Who is right here?
 

:confused: Where does it say he's an NTL employee :shrug:

Re: Who is right here?
 

Next to his name

oooh my mistake I thought it did

I am going to hide now and be embarrassed :D

I retract my last statement about NTL Employees

Re: Who is right here?
 

LLU = Local Loop Unbundling means BT releases the copper from exchange to customer so other ISP's can put their own DSLAMs in the exchange.

A line still with BTWholesale and wholesaled to other ISPs is not Unbundled and with ADSL Max (G.992.1) will sync upto 8Mbps.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unbundling

Re: Who is right here?
 

He is right cause he's a bloke ;-)

Re: Who is right here?
 

jsut a quest, is sky ADSL Max or ADSL2+? checks say i w ill get 3MB on MAX so would taht mean ill get maimum 6 on adsl2+

Re: Who is right here?
 

Sky is ADSL2+ on the exchanges its enabled on otherwise they use BT IPStream and that is max

Re: Who is right here?
 

thanks for the info, i signed up for hte mid package and should be connected on wednesday, so i suppose that is ADSL2+ as sky is enabled in my exchange, hope i get good speeds.

Thanks

Re: Who is right here?
 

just got connected, getting around 4MB but im not on ADSL2+ anyone know why?

---------- Post added at 12:17 ---------- Previous post was at 10:36 ----------

Connection Speed 3776 kbps 416 kbps Line Attenuation 55.0 db 31.5 db Noise Margin 11.9 db 14.0 db
Is this a good speed with these stats

Re: Who is right here?
 

That is a very long line at 55db roughly about 4km+. Thats is a good sync speed for the length and I am willing to bet its a ADSL2+ connection

Re: Who is right here?
 

i looked at my router config fie and its ADSL1 the mode says GDMT or something like that, really confused

Re: Who is right here?
 

Tell me exactly what it said?

What exchange you on?

Have you asked Sky?

Re: Who is right here?
 

/usr/sbin/adslctl: ADSL driver and PHY status
Status: Showtime Channel: INTR, Upstream rate = 416 Kbps, Downstream rate = 3776 Kbps
Link Power State: L0
Mode: G.DMT
Channel: Interleave
Trellis: ON
Line Status: No Defect
Training Status: Showtime
Down Up
SNR (dB): 11.8 14.0
Attn(dB): 55.0 31.5
Pwr(dBm): 19.4 1.3
Max(Kbps): 4192 1088
Rate (Kbps): 3776 416
G.dmt framing
K: 119(0) 14
R: 16 16
S: 2 16
D: 64 8
ADSL2 framing
MSGc: 1 1
B: 119 14
M: 2 16
T: 1 1
R: 16 16
S: 2.1333 17.0666
L: 960 120
D: 64 8
Counters
SF: 1812159 1812157
SFErr: 811 14
RS: 61613430 7701667
RSCorr: 112038 84
RSUnCorr: 17846 0

HEC: 669 0
OCD: 8 24
LCD: 0 4
Total Cells: 274324656 0
Data Cells: 1860580 0
Drop Cells: 0
Bit Errors: 0 0

ES: 529 0
SES: 475 0
UAS: 20 0
Total time = 8 hours 33 min 54 sec
SF = 1812159
CRC = 811
LOS = 1302
LOF = 0
ES = 529
Latest 1 day time = 8 hours 33 min 54 sec
SF = 1812159
CRC = 811
LOS = 1302
LOF = 0
ES = 529
Latest 15 minutes time = 3 min 54 sec
SF = 13762
CRC = 2
LOS = 4
LOF = 0
ES = 4
Previous 15 minutes time = 15 min 0 sec
SF = 52930
CRC = 11
LOS = 21
LOF = 0
ES = 21
Previous 1 day time = 0 sec
SF = 0
CRC = 0
LOS = 0
LOF = 0
ES = 0
15 minutes interval [-30 min to -15 min] time = 15 min 0 sec
SF = 52989
CRC = 7
LOS = 9
LOF = 0
ES = 10
15 minutes interval [-45 min to -30 min] time = 15 min 0 sec
SF = 52931
CRC = 46
LOS = 42
LOF = 0
ES = 21
15 minutes interval [-60 min to -45 min] time = 15 min 0 sec
SF = 52930
CRC = 12
LOS = 24
LOF = 0
ES = 21

---------- Post added at 19:13 ---------- Previous post was at 19:09 ----------

im on the bracknell exchange, and have not contacted sky yet

---------- Post added at 19:17 ---------- Previous post was at 19:13 ----------

i was told by people on www.skyusers.com that if mode was on G.DMT it was ADSL1

Re: Who is right here?
 

According to samknows the Bracknell exchange has been LLU'd by Sky, this would normally mean connection via ADSL2+.

Try the telephone number checker on samknows to find out how far away you're from the exchange, if it is 4km or more then it looks like 4meg is the fastest you'll get.

Re: Who is right here?
 

just phoned sky and been told that they put me on ADSL1 as its all my line can handle.

Re: Who is right here?
 

Well you are some distance away.

Shame that :(

Re: Who is right here?
 

im thinking of also changing my master socket faceplate would that help even though theres an extension running from mastersocket(downstairs) to my room upstairs. was reading on www.skyusers.co.uk that it doubled the speed for some people.

Re: Who is right here?
 

At your distance from the exchange I cant see you getting anything better I am afraid.

Re: Who is right here?
 

yea yea, i guess so, shouldnt be worrying, was only expecting 3MB as samnknows sayd

Re: Who is right here?
 

hahaha, im so happy now, ive done nothing at all and its still on ADSL1 and getting higher speeds, this is what i sync now:

Connection Speed 4320 kbps 416 kbps Line Attenuation 55.0 db 31.5 db Noise Margin 9.9 db 13.0 db

Re: Who is right here?
 

Congratulations

I have no managed to get this on my connection

Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 1,235 / 22,190
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [MB/MB]: 28.08 / 189.04
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12.0 / 16.0
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 6.5 / 18.0
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 10.0 / 4.0

Re: Who is right here?
 

its gone down so much to 608KBS for some reason :S