Re: Charlie Kirk (US conservative campaigner) shot dead
 

If you are going to jail someone for incitement in text form ie X then imo Joe Brand if she did say something about throwing acid on him is equally as guilty of incitement even if it was a joke and as she has more of a following than Lucy Connolly she is even more guilty imo . Hate is hate throwing in race should not make it any worse an offense it is unbalanced

If some white moron decides to beat me to death I can rest in peace easy knowing its not as bad as someone from a different race doing it

You might be right..... That may be stepping over the line!! (As this country does alot)

Thanx for removiing the link,I didnt mean any harm by it.......

Re: Charlie Kirk (US conservative campaigner) shot dead
 

Brand was clearly joking, though. It would be impossible to miss from the full context.

But I also think Connolly fell short of needing a conviction, albeit it was a horrible tweet.

I am not a free speech absolutist. I think if someone is advocating violence against someone seriously, they should be arrested. Someone at the far-right march said that of Starmer, and I don't know why he wasn't arrested for advocating violence against a politican.

Re: Charlie Kirk (US conservative campaigner) shot dead
 

It just shows why hate speech laws are a mess, and should be removed and re-thought.

the very term "hate speech" is too broad. Why can't I say something hateful?

You can't legislate away emotions.

Re: Charlie Kirk (US conservative campaigner) shot dead
 

A good article here about the law around it and why Musk did not break it but someone calling for Starmer to be killed did break the law.

A key point is whether inflammatory speech carries the threat of provoking “immediate unlawful violence" This is the threshold set by Parliament that such speech must cross to constitute criminality.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-break-the-law

Re: Charlie Kirk (US conservative campaigner) shot dead
 

Anyone know off-hand what the actual legal status of the term “hate speech” is - does it have a legal basis or is it shorthand for something legislation describes differently?

Re: Charlie Kirk (US conservative campaigner) shot dead
 

Well I guess you can do the same search as me ...
Also: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_s...United_Kingdom

Re: Charlie Kirk (US conservative campaigner) shot dead
 

I’d rather leave that to the overnight staff when I have these thoughts just as I’m getting into bed ;)