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Jerrek 13-11-2003 20:44

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Hey, if I'm disliked by people that like to fly planes into buildings and blow themselves up amongst women and children, I feel good. I'd be rather troubled of they like me.

Russ 13-11-2003 20:47

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No, what those Al Q'eda (sp) nuggets did was pathetic (well it was a LOT more than pathetic but we've been over that a million time before) and you are entitled to be proud of being american (I'm just as patriotic) just like all 250 million of you are, just don't start asking "Why" when other nations aren't as impressed :)

downquark1 13-11-2003 20:49

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Originally Posted by Jerrek
Hey, if I'm disliked by people that like to fly planes into buildings and blow themselves up amongst women and children, I feel good. I'd be rather troubled of they like me.

If I'm disliked by pompous Americans who serve only their interest and wouldn't know self-criticisium if it danced naked on a harpsicord - I feel good.

Stuart 13-11-2003 21:11

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Originally Posted by Jerrek
Hey, if I'm disliked by people that like to fly planes into buildings and blow themselves up amongst women and children, I feel good. I'd be rather troubled of they like me.

Not everyone who hates the US is a terrorist.

I don't hate the Americans and Canadians as such, but they do have this attitude that they are far superior to anyone else. Which, IMO, is certainly not the case.

Anyway, Jerrek, if America and Canada are so great, how come you don't speak your own language. AFAIK the three most spoken languages are English, French and Spanish..

dr wadd 13-11-2003 21:23

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Originally Posted by Jerrek
Hey, if I'm disliked by people that like to fly planes into buildings and blow themselves up amongst women and children, I feel good. I'd be rather troubled of they like me.

But what you are failing to take into account here is that if they liked you then they wouldn`t flying planes into your buildings. It doesn`t take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.

Ramrod 13-11-2003 21:42

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But what you are failing to take into account here is that if they liked you then they wouldn`t flying planes into your buildings. It doesn`t take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.

No, I think it takes a real special kind of a**hole to do what they did. People like that need someone to hate and they don't need much excuse.

Ramrod 13-11-2003 21:43

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Anyway, Jerrek, if America and Canada are so great, how come you don't speak your own language. AFAIK the three most spoken languages are English, French and Spanish..

He does, it's Afrikaans!:p

Stuart 13-11-2003 22:46

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He does, it's Afrikaans!:p

I stand corrected...

Russ 13-11-2003 23:00

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Oh hang on, they also have ebonics.

Apparently the Ebonics for "You are beautiful, I would like to make love to you" translates to "Dayum biatch, you stupid fly, lemme pull up to dat bumper and smak dat monkey" :D

More can be found here, be warned however, some choice language can be found therein :)

Jerrek 13-11-2003 23:08

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No, what those Al Q'eda (sp) nuggets did was pathetic (well it was a LOT more than pathetic but we've been over that a million time before) and you are entitled to be proud of being american (I'm just as patriotic) just like all 250 million of you are, just don't start asking "Why" when other nations aren't as impressed
The fact of the matter is, I'm patriotic and I'm proud of what I am. That doesn't sit well with the continental Europeans. I will, WILL, take care of my own country first, and the rest of the world later.

I don't hate the Americans and Canadians as such, but they do have this attitude that they are far superior to anyone else. Which, IMO, is certainly not the case.
Look: I want to be American and Canadian, and nothing else. You want to be English (or Scotish, or Welsh, or Irish), and nothing else. We all believe that our way is the right way and that we are a little better than the rest of the world. In the grand scheme of things, that might or might not be the case. Each country has its merits. Some more than others.

That attitute of being superior to anyone else is called patriotism. We are damn proud of who we are, what we have accomplished, and what we believe. To people that disagree with the way we do things, that has got to be annoying. *shrug* Deal with it.

Anyway, Jerrek, if America and Canada are so great, how come you don't speak your own language. AFAIK the three most spoken languages are English, French and Spanish..
You forgot Mandarin. And we do speak our own language as you Brits like to point out: American. :)


But what you are failing to take into account here is that if they liked you then they wouldn`t flying planes into your buildings. It doesn`t take a rocket scientist to figure that one out.
Not really. I wouldn't want to be friends with people like that regardless whether they like me or dislike me. If their culture teaches them to do things like that, they are just WRONG.

Ramrod 13-11-2003 23:16

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Originally Posted by Jerrek
The fact of the matter is, I'm patriotic and I'm proud of what I am. That doesn't sit well with the continental Europeans. I will, WILL, take care of my own country first, and the rest of the world later.

The English could do with more of that attitude....

kronas 13-11-2003 23:23

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The English could do with more of that attitude....


your so right not like tony blair who 'folds' under the pressure of the euro ministers :2up:

Ramrod 13-11-2003 23:25

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your so right not like tony blair who 'folds' under the pressure of the euro ministers :2up:

Lets not go there!

dr wadd 14-11-2003 00:15

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No, I think it takes a real special kind of a**hole to do what they did. People like that need someone to hate and they don't need much excuse.

The whole point of the original post to which I was replying was in the context of the terrorists *not* hating the USA. If they didn`t hate the USA they wouldn`t fly planes into their buildings, it really isn`t a difficult concept to understand.

Your view of the world seems to be shockingly narrow. Are you honestly stating that the hate of these terrorists is something innate that would be expressed anyway, and that they just happen to have picked on the USA for some reason? You need to take into account the reasons for the hate, and as wrong as the events of 9/11, the USA pretty much had it coming for a long time, and they just brought it upon themselves.

dr wadd 14-11-2003 00:17

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Originally Posted by Jerrek
[b]The fact of the matter is, I'm patriotic and I'm proud of what I am. That doesn't sit well with the continental Europeans. I will, WILL, take care of my own country first, and the rest of the world later.

Sorry, I got the impression that the USA were taking care of the rest of the world, only to paraphrase Father Ted, they seem to be doing it in an Al Pacino kind of way.


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