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Re: NTL's MTA is blacklisted ?

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Originally Posted by abailey152

This is a catch-22 situation. You either encourage people to report spam, and then audit their responses, or you make it more difficult to report, and get less people involved.

It's difficult to find a way around this, except throw resources at it. I agree that many users just cannot be trusted to audit their own reports correctly, so I think organisations like Spamcop need to do a little checking of their own before adding IP addresses to their blacklist.

There are different sorts of blacklist. It's acknowledged that the public, open lists, such as Spamcop, that anybody can submit an offending server to, are more prone to false positives and malicious reporting. Other lists, such as those that maintain honey traps and blacklist any server that sends emails to the traps, are generally more accurate. What's really needed is better legislation and a stronger system for monitoring spam and blacklisting those servers that send spam, allow it to be sent or are misconfigured in a way that assists spammers. I'm thinking agencies whose purpose it is to maintain [a] "definitive" list[s]. Currently Spampal has something like sixteen different lists and the list of lists is constantly changing - the smaller lists often "disappear" because of the overheads involved.

Re: NTL's MTA is blacklisted ?

Being almost totally self legislating, as we know it now, the internet really does rely on people trusting other people.

But how can we trust other people to accurately block spam, when it's people that are sending out the spam in the first place.

Bah.

What we need (which we'll probably never get) is a government (or co-ISP established) body that runs an operation like Spamhaus. But, it'd be too costly, what'd you rather, extra taxes (or higher ISP subscriptions), or to spend 10 minutes a day deleting spam?

I personally agree with the AOL/M$ story that is developing at the moment, where (to cut a long story short) apparently they're starting to work together to re-invent the SMTP protocol, which will prevent spam, or at least, spam on a large scale.

Man i'm so drunk.

Re: NTL's MTA is blacklisted ?

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Originally Posted by nate

I personally agree with the AOL/M$ story that is developing at the moment, where (to cut a long story short) apparently they're starting to work together to re-invent the SMTP protocol, which will prevent spam, or at least, spam on a large scale.

So that will become BMTP, bloated mail transfer protocol?

Re: NTL's MTA is blacklisted ?

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Originally Posted by SMHarman

So that will become BMTP, bloated mail transfer protocol?

hah! probably.
But guaranteed someone will come up with an opensource alternative.

Re: NTL's MTA is blacklisted ?

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Originally Posted by nate

Doesn't sound good if only AOL and Microsoft are involved. It'll be like at the moment where you have the standard version of a program and the AOL version because AOL ignores the RFCs and does it likes. Proprietary doesn't work on the Internet. Should be interesting to see what develops.