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Originally Posted by poolking

There is a canadian company based in Ontario called Rogers and are currently offering 5Mbit.

I am a member of a forum that discusses their services.

You forgot to mention Rogers tend to cut people off for using too much, and give no idea as to how much too much is - I've heard 15GB a month mentioned ;)

They also have a number of oversubscribed areas and unhappy customers due to the networks they inherited.

A more popular and faster ISP is Cogeco, who despite having soft limits are yet afaik to cut people off for overuse, and their standard and pro packages are 5.5Mbit/640kbit and 10Mbit/1Mbit. Also see relatively few complaints about them and they are usually sorted pretty rapidly.

TBH i cant see the point in 5/6Mbits.

I work for a ISP and even tho we have stoopidly fast internet 155Mb etc.

We rarely get faster downloads off a normal webserver ( Not including p2p as p2p can be faster due to the amount of users )

Max ive seen off a normal webserver Yano downloading like 50Meg tool apps etc not in our datacenter, IE: located in another country etc. We get max of about 1500Kbit/s..

So unless you download loads from a P2P network or watch stoopidly hi res streaming media, Its allmost pointless getting faster than 2Meg connections.

If it was 1:1 contention and was symmetric ( Upload & download the same speed ) I would consider getting that speed.

Phew.. Thats my 2Cents

you only mentioned webservers why is that?

what about people who use other means like ftp/streaming/multi tasking(family/friends).

I would rather have stupidly high res as you put it rather then what we see now, which to be honest 300kbit is the bare minimum I find tolerable for a streaming video.

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Originally Posted by JustAnotherN00b

I'm on Rogers now and last month we did (my roommates and I) a combined throughput of 142 GB.

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Originally Posted by Jerrek

I'm on Rogers now and last month we did (my roommates and I) a combined throughput of 142 GB.

Nice to see Rogers being a bit more relaxed Jerrek, I have as you have seen some real horror stories on broadbandreports.com and I'm glad they are relaxing a bit on their capping!

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Originally Posted by keithwalton

I used 100mbit halls connection and i can certainly say its worth it. Certainly for downloading things in bursts. The speed on demand was great. If i wanted to download the latest game demo, or even when bored linux distro (and yes my pile of cd's can contest to that :p i've got about every distro going in various incarnations, what can i say i was bored)
Being able to download at 5meg/s + was really usefull. A cd image in just over two minutes was great.
The bandwidth certainly is there in the internet servers, yes alot of them were maxed out but rarely less than 1meg/s.

It's only human nature to want things now, and not wait for it to download. Websites with lots of images on them were a breeze at times the browser couldnt load the data fast enough.

I probably didnt use much more gigs a month then as i do now, (though not so many linux discs i must say but there still is some for those rainy days)
It being 100mbit full duplex was also nice, its the upload speed i miss most (on 2mbit / 256k adsl) as i could send pictures from my digicam to my mates across the halls in a blink of an eye (like i do now across the lan) and even to my other friends on adsl and such as i allways maxed them out rather than it walking along at 30k/s
If you ever get to try this sort of speed, (eg, ac network in the south of uk, as up north is abit slower for some reason) you will be amazed
K

Ironically, AFAIK a large part (possibly all) of the JANET (.ac.uk) is actually provided by NTL networks (not NTL Home). I work for a Uni, so am also on a 100 Mbit network, and while it is nice to able to download things like Mandrake Linux (all CDS) in 12 minutes, you really don't notice the extra speed in normal use. Especially since they started checking the network for unauthorised servers and P2P use. Having said that, I don't use streaming media much, unless I am testing a stream for work.

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Originally Posted by scastle

Some will use ntl's fibre for sure (nothing else, that's UKERNA's job!), you'd be surprised at the companies who do use ntl's fibre network, it's quite extensive!

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Originally Posted by JustAnotherN00b

Some will use ntl's fibre for sure (nothing else, that's UKERNA's job!), you'd be surprised at the companies who do use ntl's fibre network, it's quite extensive!

I know, isn't it currently the most comprehensive fibre network in the country?

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Originally Posted by scastle

I work for a Uni, so am also on a 100 Mbit network, and while it is nice to able to download things like Mandrake Linux (all CDS) in 12 minutes, you really don't notice the extra speed in normal use.

I know what u mean, I'm sat here with in theory a 1gigabit connection, I have a 1gig card in this PC and then rest of the campus network is 1gig and our connection to the regional network (or MAN) and thus to JANET is also 1gig.

But I decided for security to NAT my windows PC behind my Linux machine and I only have 2 x 100meg cards in the Linux Machine. I suppose I could kick my feet and go to my boss I want two gigabit ethernet cards, but well I can't actually be asked, I class it in this situation as a waste of money!

I can't be bothered with downloading loads and loads of stuff. I was about to download red hat to put on a test server the other day and then didn't bother afterwards cause I found a copy on a server on the otherside of Campus, so zapped it across from there.

The only reason the broadband at home gets thrashed is because I live with some student mates who love their p2p, I on the other hand download occasionally but the rest of the time can't be bothered.