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Bill C 11-12-2006 18:23
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 34177169)
It was a typo. I don't know - I have had it confirmed 'officially' by ntl and yet people still believe a simple little error as though it is fact.

The upload rate is 512kbps and will still be tomorrow and the day after that and then the day after that, you get the picture....
Well said Mick. :tu:

Jon T 11-12-2006 18:46
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
just got off the phone to customer services,, guy I spoke to told me that we were going to be hit by an asteroid tomorrow and that civilisation would be destroyed, because of this they would be opening the network up to whatever speed we could get from it.

Change will be happening from 9 o'clock tonight:D


Serious part: Aint there alot of doom and gloom merchants/conspiracy theorists out there.

Every second post I see on here seems to follow the form of: My speeds are crap, my pings are high, NTL:Telewest are crooks, ADSL is better/cheaper, BT are gods.

DocDutch 11-12-2006 18:49
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
Jon, you are 100% right....I would like to know how much of a percentage of NTL customers are really suffering slow speeds, say they got the 10meg but only getting something like 1 meg and then where they are based.

I've since day1 that NTL came with 10 meg never been below 9meg :D but then that might be lucky.

also with all people saying ADSL is better...dream on..only if your living in the exchange itself then you get good speed after 500meters then you are already stuck on say 3meg outta the 8 you should get.

Bill C 11-12-2006 18:49
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
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Originally Posted by Jon T (Post 34177184)
just got off the phone to customer services,, guy I spoke to told me that we were going to be hit by an asteroid tomorrow and that civilisation would be destroyed, because of this they would be opening the network up to whatever speed we could get from it.

Change will be happening from 9 o'clock tonight:D


Serious part: Aint there alot of doom and gloom merchants/conspiracy theorists out there.

Every second post I see on here seems to follow the form of: My speeds are crap, my pings are high, NTL:Telewest are crooks, ADSL is better/cheaper, BT are gods.
some people need one of these.

DocDutch 11-12-2006 18:50
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
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Originally Posted by Be* (Post 34177159)
Erm i just stated i dont believe it.

I said in my last post if its true anyway regarding the speed drop.

For once I do believe you

Be* where are you based mate??? cuz you got something like 20megs now with 1meg upload???

or is that a test from a work network?

Bill C 11-12-2006 18:54
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DocDutch (Post 34177190)
Be* where are you based mate??? cuz you got something like 20megs now with 1meg upload???

or is that a test from a work network?

I would say he is on BE unlimited

---------- Post added at 19:54 ---------- Previous post was at 19:52 ----------

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jon T (Post 34177184)
just got off the phone to customer services,, guy I spoke to told me that we were going to be hit by an asteroid tomorrow and that civilisation would be destroyed, because of this they would be opening the network up to whatever speed we could get from it.

Change will be happening from 9 o'clock tonight:D


Serious part: Aint there alot of doom and gloom merchants/conspiracy theorists out there.

Every second post I see on here seems to follow the form of: My speeds are crap, my pings are high, NTL:Telewest are crooks, ADSL is better/cheaper, BT are gods.
Can i claim a discount from NTL for allowing me to be hit by an asteroid. Do you have the number for retentions must be quick before everyone else calls.

dilli-theclaw 11-12-2006 18:56
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
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Originally Posted by Bill C (Post 34177191)
Can i claim a discount from NTL for allowing me to be hit by an asteroid. Do you have the number for retentions must be quick before everyone else calls.
Would you get a refund for not dying ;) :)

Central 11-12-2006 18:59
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by DocDutch (Post 34177190)
Be* where are you based mate??? cuz you got something like 20megs now with 1meg upload???

or is that a test from a work network?
Yes Bill is right i am with Be unlimited. Its ADSL2+ and i am close well ish to the exchange

Bill C 11-12-2006 19:00
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jefferson T (Post 34177195)
Would you get a refund for not dying ;) :)
Update

Just got off the phone.

Retentions have said due to all the Asteroid discounts they cannot afford to deflect it any more so we are all going to die :(


Boy people where quick on that one.

Locky 11-12-2006 20:20
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
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Originally Posted by Be* (Post 34177197)
Yes Bill is right i am with Be unlimited. Its ADSL2+ and i am close well ish to the exchange
how far are u from exchange ?

ps from what i read at ntlhell thees downgrades started happening, any1 with a 10 meg config file had the upload changed ? i havent ? any1 else ?

Central 11-12-2006 20:24
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
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Originally Posted by Locky (Post 34177260)
how far are u from exchange ?

ps from what i read at ntlhell thees downgrades started happening, any1 with a 10 meg config file had the upload changed ? i havent ? any1 else ?
261 metres straight line

SnoopZ 11-12-2006 20:30
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Locky (Post 34177260)
how far are u from exchange ?

ps from what i read at ntlhell thees downgrades started happening, any1 with a 10 meg config file had the upload changed ? i havent ? any1 else ?
Apparently NTL said it was an error on the webpage, which has now been corrected. It was the upload rates for TW that had been quoted and not NTL's.

Bill C 11-12-2006 20:31
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Locky (Post 34177260)
how far are u from exchange ?

ps from what i read at ntlhell thees downgrades started happening, any1 with a 10 meg config file had the upload changed ? i havent ? any1 else ?


10 print "To repeat myself in a infinite loop."

20 print "No one had there upload changed. There is a network freeze at the moment which means that there can be no i repeat NO changes on mass to the system."

30 cls

40 goto 10

:LOL:

Central 11-12-2006 21:21
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by SnoopZ (Post 34177268)
Apparently NTL said it was an error on the webpage, which has now been corrected. It was the upload rates for TW that had been quoted and not NTL's.
Comes to something when a ISP cant even produce there own upload speeds :D

totalwar 11-12-2006 21:21
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
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Originally Posted by Be* (Post 34177263)
261 metres straight line
If you really want a upload go Beoffice up to 2.5meg upload speed mine starts this friday and no traffic shaping here but you need to be under 2km from the exchange.:angel:

Graham M 11-12-2006 21:24
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill C (Post 34177270)
10 print "To repeat myself in a infinite loop."

20 print "No one had there upload changed. There is a network freeze at the moment which means that there can be no i repeat NO changes on mass to the system."

30 cls

40 goto 10

:LOL:
That's a very BASIC programming language.

I'll get my coat :)

Central 11-12-2006 21:25
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
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Originally Posted by totalwar (Post 34177304)
If you really want a upload go Beoffice up to 2.5meg upload speed mine starts this friday and no traffic shaping here but you need to be under 2km from the exchange.:angel:

1.3mb is fine.

I am not paying a extra £50 a month for 2.5mb upload

twinkle 11-12-2006 22:56
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
if ntl do not do a 10 % of me download i am on a 10 meg cannot fault it , i shall be gone after x- mas .i live 150 metres from a box that can give sky .crappy bt line but who knows what the outcome ,a mate at work fked off ntl to go to sky ,he gets all his upto speeds ,with a bt line

AndrewJ 11-12-2006 23:49
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:)

Graham M 12-12-2006 00:23
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
Erm nice typing... how do you live 150m from a box that can give Sky? You receive Sky from a satellite and require a dish :confused:

AndrewJ 12-12-2006 04:19
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
A flea farting in india said that 10mb users will get 600kbs upload.

Pø†øƒGøLÐ 12-12-2006 04:38
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 34177169)
It was a typo. I don't know - I have had it confirmed 'officially' by ntl and yet people still believe a simple little error as though it is fact.

The upload rate is 512kbps and will still be tomorrow and the day after that and then the day after that, you get the picture....
So does that mean us BY customers are being "upped" to 512k or does this only related to NTL packages and we're stuck with the measly 384k we have now??

AndrewJ 12-12-2006 05:45
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
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Originally Posted by Pø†*øƒG ƒÆ’¸LÐ (Post 34177431)
So does that mean us BY customers are being "upped" to 512k or does this only related to NTL packages and we're stuck with the measly 384k we have now??
Yup, welcome to NTL.

pooper 12-12-2006 12:02
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Felinix_Devotion (Post 34177429)
A flea farting in india said that 10mb users will get 600kbs upload.
Holy craaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaap!

Spread the word everyone! :Yikes: :Yikes: :Yikes: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:

Virgin Mary 12-12-2006 12:14
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
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Originally Posted by Bill C (Post 34177146)
Complete and utter crap. The person who phoned me back this afternoon is one of those that does the upgrades and downgrades and he was adamant that it was not true. But as usual those that think they know better or who want to stir the crap will come along. If it was happening why have i and others at work with access to SABS seen no difference to the configs. ?

And this.



CABLE MODEM
•[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]Information
•[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]Status
•[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]Downstream
•[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]Upstream
•[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]Upstream Burst
•[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]Operation Config.
•[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]Event Log

[img]Download Failed (1)[/img]
Cable Modem Operation Configuration
Network Access : Allowed
Maximum Downstream Data Rate : 10240000
Maximum Upstream Data Rate : 512000
Maximum Upstream Channel Burst : 1600
Maximum Number of CPEs : 1
Modem Capability : Concatenation Enabled, Fragametation Enabled, PHS Disabled
Another typo "Fragametation" , does NTL employ Guardian journos?

Mick 12-12-2006 15:55
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pø†*øƒG ƒÆ’¸LÐ (Post 34177431)
So does that mean us BY customers are being "upped" to 512k or does this only related to NTL packages and we're stuck with the measly 384k we have now??
It doesn't mean anything of the sort - It was two typos that have now been corrected - You are looking at ntl's web portal, so obviously this is specific to ntl broadband services.

Bill C 12-12-2006 15:59
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
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Originally Posted by Lobster Ring (Post 34177605)
Another typo "Fragametation" , does NTL employ Guardian journos?

No

Ambit do :LOL:

dilli-theclaw 12-12-2006 16:02
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill C (Post 34177759)
No

Ambit do :LOL:
Aren't you supposed to be dead or something ;) :)

Bill C 12-12-2006 16:13
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jefferson T (Post 34177766)
Aren't you supposed to be dead or something ;) :)
I am a voice from the grave :batty:

Zee 12-12-2006 16:23
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
NTL wouldn't downgrade the service to Telewest's poor upload speeds, it's just a typo since the NTL site has been redesigned to the nicer looking Telewest's site.

They must have been doing too much copy and paste!

From NTLs site:

Features
  • Ultra fast up to 10Mb speed. Upload at 512kbps.
http://home.ntl.com/websales/product.do?id=3246

Atleast its safe to say the 10Mbps package hasn't been downgraded

hokkers999 12-12-2006 18:02
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
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Originally Posted by Daffy Duck (Post 34175992)
On the 4100 if you go to 192.168.100.1 and click on logs you'll see 4 columns,one of these is labelled code.Look for E102.0 and you should see something like this in the message column
SW Download INIT - Via Config file cm-10240-384
I'm with BY and am used to the 384 upload,was rather hoping that we'd get the NTL 512 but seems they're going the other way on this.
What surprises me tho,if it's true,is the timing...why do it now when it means taking something away from your customers which is bound to upset more than a few people.Surely,if the rumoured upgrades are true,that would be the time to do it....put the 10meg on the 20/768 that BY has trialled.That way you'd be complaining that you weren't given as much,for free,that you'd expected or hoped for.A totally different scenario and ,in my opinion,no real justification for a complaint
Just done a reboot an my SB4100 and the only line I get that is to do with code is this

*** BOOTING *** SB4100-0.4.9.4-SCM02-NOSH

pooper 12-12-2006 18:42
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
Nosh? I think it's trying to tell you it's hungry!

Pø†øƒGøLÐ 12-12-2006 18:45
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mick (Post 34177755)
It doesn't mean anything of the sort - It was two typos that have now been corrected - You are looking at ntl's web portal, so obviously this is specific to ntl broadband services.
There's nothing obvious about it - the companies have "merged", the packages are being changed... there's no reason that the intention to have them the same might not be true, regardless of the fact the NTL site had a typo. There could just as easily be typos on the BY site!!

Mick 12-12-2006 19:15
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pø†*øƒG ƒÆ’¸LÐ (Post 34177945)
There's nothing obvious about it.
Yes there absolutely is. The obvious clue and as already mentioned - its on the ntl website thus, its all about ntl broadband services. You are on BY, so there is a seperate web portal all about BY services.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pø†*øƒG ƒÆ’¸LÐ
the companies have "merged", the packages are being changed...
But haven't as of yet! The other clue, there hasn't been any announcement that ntl and Telewest have finally combined all products and services into a single portfolio of services available.

I cannot seriously believe that a typo being corrected suddenly signalled to you that BY customers might get the same as ntl customers? I have absolutely no idea how you come to work that one out.

Regardless, if the companies are merging, they are still running seperate services for the time being, besides - even if there was a small change to the upload rate, it isn't a sudden signal that both companies have now intergrated and running a single set of services.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Pø†*øƒG ƒÆ’¸LÐ
there's no reason that the intention to have them the same might not be true,
I haven't even commented on this being true or untrue. I have simply and can quite categorically point out that the errors on the ntl website were simple little typos due to the site undergoing a recent update. It is nothing more, nothing less. Too much has been looked into this than there needs to be. Despite the obvious being spelled out to some people several times now.

Zee 12-12-2006 20:32
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
There isn't a typo on Telewest's site, it's said 384K (On 10Mb) Upload on Telewest for a long time now, and NTL has been 512K (On 10Mb) for a long time now too so since NTL redesigned their site to look like Telewest, someone must have copied incorrect info from Telewest site, that is all...

Sherlock614 13-12-2006 00:20
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
9 pages for a typo :erm:

Druchii 13-12-2006 01:07
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sherlock614 (Post 34178143)
9 pages for a typo :erm:
Just shows how strongly people feel about there broadband service really.

Sherlock614 13-12-2006 07:48
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
Aww cmon now.... Worried about upload when we're all moving up to 50mbit soon....
































:p:

pooper 13-12-2006 11:20
Re: Ntl to reduce upload speed on 10mb
 
Soon? I heard it was next week!!!!!1!!!!!one

Maybe this thread should be locked now! ;)

Mick 13-12-2006 12:10
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What a good idea!


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