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pabscars 10-08-2010 16:00

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bring it on succa,

glad to hear your FINALLY sorted, looking forward to having my backside handed to me again like the other night lol

Might be on tonight but cant guarantee, as I,m supposed to be having a cod4 night with the guys on my xbox

speedfreak 10-08-2010 16:10

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Originally Posted by pabscars (Post 35070663)
bring it on succa,

glad to hear your FINALLY sorted, looking forward to having my backside handed to me again like the other night lol

Might be on tonight but cant guarantee, as I,m supposed to be having a cod4 night with the guys on my xbox

xbox?! what you doing on that thing,are you running scared :p: oh if i bring two down to you do you fancy fixing them, had enough of using them as doorstops now :D Im on tonight but never mind if you're not about, I'll go old skool and hit cod5


p.s thanks jo xxx ;)

pabscars 10-08-2010 23:25

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Originally Posted by speedfreak (Post 35070665)
xbox?! what you doing on that thing,are you running scared :p: oh if i bring two down to you do you fancy fixing them, had enough of using them as doorstops now :D Im on tonight but never mind if you're not about, I'll go old skool and hit cod5


p.s thanks jo xxx ;)

Hay speedy, those few games were really laggy, obviously an american lobby, yes by all means bring your consoles down, you can service my boiler while your at it :D:D,

I still use my xbox a lot because Ive got a load of really sound guys that I play with on there regularly, who also have the same sick sense of humour I have :erm:

later dude, going for a quick blast on MW2 now on the ps3

speedfreak 10-08-2010 23:32

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Hay speedy, those few games were really laggy, obviously an american lobby, yes by all means bring your consoles down, you can service my boiler while your at it :D:D,

I still use my xbox a lot because Ive got a load of really sound guys that I play with on there regularly, who also have the same sick sense of humour I have :erm:

later dude, going for a quick blast on MW2 now on the ps3

yep it was American and 18 players in the lobby didnt help. I gave up in the end, no bugger would die! Yep like I said I'll give you're boiler a once over, then like a car mechanic I'll rub my chin and tell you its past it, its gonna cost ya :D I'll sort something out with you when I can make it down, thanks :)

speedfreak 26-08-2010 22:10

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Just a little update. Still have the correctables but everything has been great. Gaming is top notch and whats even better is torrents are now ok. I was downloading torrents before the 2nd repull and they were corrupt, I was getting CRC errors which after some googling is meant to be a faulty hard drive but ever since the repull all my downloads are spot on, even better they download at the speeds they should do! Only had 3 T3's since the repull.

Im now one happy VM customer and glad I stuck with it :) Huge thanks to M.V in the CEO's office

pabscars 27-08-2010 08:15

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Just a little update. Still have the correctables but everything has been great. Gaming is top notch and whats even better is torrents are now ok. I was downloading torrents before the 2nd repull and they were corrupt, I was getting CRC errors which after some googling is meant to be a faulty hard drive but ever since the repull all my downloads are spot on, even better they download at the speeds they should do! Only had 3 T3's since the repull.

Im now one happy VM customer and glad I stuck with it :) Huge thanks to M.V in the CEO's office

Glad to hear it speedy, fingers crossed it stays that way for you pal.

FYI my problems have still not gone away, however I have seen a slight improvement since vm switched off all the dodgy boxes in my area :D (nice one vm).

I still get the same lag spikes whilst gaming, slightly less frequent and severe I think but its hard to tell. According to our contact the upstream utilisation on my port is now good, yet running tests still show some upstream packet loss (up to 40%, see attachement).

This seemed to clear up after 7pm last night and wasn't too bad after that, but I,m running out of excuses on what to blame it on. I,m now starting to think its maybe an interference problem at my end.:confused:

Anyway still glad to here your sorted speedy and look forward to bumping into you on MW2 sometime :p:

Sephiroth 27-08-2010 10:01

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Best wishes, Speedie.

Meet you at the Tale of Spice in Runcorn soon!

speedfreak 27-08-2010 19:03

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Next time you're up at the Adlington one, let me know mate. You're quite the curry monster arent you, do you do tours of the uk sampling fine Indian cuisine? :) How did you get on with the netgear, was it any better? Thanks again for all your help seph, I wouldnt have stuck around for them to fix it if it wasn't for you.

Pabs, did you ever move the router away from all the other electrical stuff? If it was me Id plug straight in to the modem, forget the router and have the modem in the middle of the room on its own to test it. I'll be on this sunday/monday night, I'll come join you big boys and show you how its done, snipers only ;)

pabscars 27-08-2010 21:23

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Pabs, did you ever move the router away from all the other electrical stuff? If it was me Id plug straight in to the modem, forget the router and have the modem in the middle of the room on its own to test it. I'll be on this sunday/monday night, I'll come join you big boys and show you how its done, snipers only ;)

In a word no, historically whenever Ive bypassed the router its made no difference and has been the same on 4 different ones, but that doesnt mean I cant try again :), however I cant put the modem in the middle of the room because the length of cable prohibits this.

One thing that may be worth a mention is the fact that where the cable comes through the house brickwork, the white box is screwed just an inch above the radiator pipework, and behind this pipework runs an extension lead to power the phone on the other side of the living room.

Only problem is I cant eliminate this as a noise source as its the point of entry into the property.

speedfreak 28-08-2010 00:49

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In a word no, historically whenever Ive bypassed the router its made no difference and has been the same on 4 different ones, but that doesnt mean I cant try again :), however I cant put the modem in the middle of the room because the length of cable prohibits this.

One thing that may be worth a mention is the fact that where the cable comes through the house brickwork, the white box is screwed just an inch above the radiator pipework, and behind this pipework runs an extension lead to power the phone on the other side of the living room.

Only problem is I cant eliminate this as a noise source as its the point of entry into the property.

If you have a word with you know who he MAY offer to arrange to have the point of entry moved, he did offer me the same thing to rule things out, I think the normal charge would be £99, worth asking about mate if he can sort it. Im sure he would like to see you sorted, he does seem to care like that. I keep meaning to send the CEO an email about him praising how he handled it all but Im always too busy, I plan to sort it over the weekend as he deserves it.

After downloading various films I can confirm that the errors were indeed due to a bad line as they are now perfect,even though some techs said there was nothing was wrong with the line this proves otherwise. Im sure I remember you saying your equipment was near the tv etc so its worth looking in to, you obviously had a line fault but that may have been fixed with the upload congestion, could be your line is perfect but its probs at your end.

Anyhow, I'll be heading to you in Sept to see you work your magic on my 2 duff x boxes, would be cool to kick ya ass on a different console :D

pabscars 29-08-2010 21:01

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If you have a word with you know who he MAY offer to arrange to have the point of entry moved, he did offer me the same thing to rule things out, I think the normal charge would be £99, worth asking about mate if he can sort it. Im sure he would like to see you sorted, he does seem to care like that. I keep meaning to send the CEO an email about him praising how he handled it all but Im always too busy, I plan to sort it over the weekend as he deserves it.

After downloading various films I can confirm that the errors were indeed due to a bad line as they are now perfect,even though some techs said there was nothing was wrong with the line this proves otherwise. Im sure I remember you saying your equipment was near the tv etc so its worth looking in to, you obviously had a line fault but that may have been fixed with the upload congestion, could be your line is perfect but its probs at your end.

Anyhow, I'll be heading to you in Sept to see you work your magic on my 2 duff x boxes, would be cool to kick ya ass on a different console :D

Yo speedy, what happened to you last night,,,, I chucked you 4 or 5 invites to MW2 but you never joined.... I can only pressume you were scared :D:D

Ive had a good sort out behind my TV, and moved things around whilst re routing the vm cabling and making sure there are no kinks in the coax etc.

Yet I,m still seeing the same issues as before, but at least at the moment its usable, there has definitely been an improvement in the upstream just these damn lag spikes, although frequent only last for a brief moment. although I cant rule out my end completely I would have thought that interference from near by equipment would effect the downstream as well but that never returns any packet loss. :confused:

I tried to relocate the modem but the coax isn't long enough.......so I've just moved it as far away as possible for now, I will bypass the router later tonight to see if it makes a difference, fingers crossed.

I will look forward to you coming round next month, but Ive no guarantees with your xbox's, they are built like crap and don't always respond well to open heart surgery.

I might be on later and if your about I will chuck you an invite, but go easy speedy I,m not a wipper snapper like you :D

pabscars 01-09-2010 09:44

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Hay speedy how have you found gaming since your line fault was sorted, I know you said a while ago that gaming was perfect, but now you've had chance to live with it for a while has your opinion changed, have you tried hosting?

In your last reply you mentioned about me moving the cm entry point and to be fair its not a bad idea but the amount of damage it caused drilling through the brickwork I,d be loathed to have any more done, however I did have a look in the brown box on the wall at weekend and noticed the cable was coiled up a couple of times before it enter's the brickwork.

I,m sure I read somewhere that you need to remove kinks or tight radius's in the cable as it can cause interference, so next time the weather is nice I,m gonna get rid of all the slack.

Anyway looking at my probs with a fresh pair of eyes, I think my line is as good as I can expect, sometimes its great and sometimes not so, Its probably just the nature of the beast. I don't get any T3 or T4 timeouts any more, and my codeworks climb so slow its not worth mentioning, so I think its about time I got Marc to close the case and I just get on with using it, accepting that it aint gonna be perfect 24,7.

I did try gaming without the router in place on Sunday evening and it was hard to notice a difference, so I cant categorically rule it out, so sod it I,m just gonna chillout about it (for now) and just crack on unlocking FMJ on every weapon on MW2.

I spent Sunday evening running round with just shot guns only, and I think some guys were getting a wee bit miffed :) good fun though.

Look forward to teaching you a lesson again...............possibly..................not. ..... :)

speedfreak 01-09-2010 14:23

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sorry mate I havent been playing on my name for a bit. So far so good here :D I do still get some lag but with games like mw2 where anyone can host its to be expected, the game seems to pick me as host quite a lot now and Ive not heard abuse down the headset so it must be ok for everyone else.

I just got it in my head it wont be perfect all the time, compared to TalkTalk its miles better, no peak time congestion making it unusable. Yep I remember Seph once advised me to check for kinks as a cause to my codewords. I no longer get the T3's either. I'll be on tonight so I might see you on there :)

pabscars 01-09-2010 15:12

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Originally Posted by speedfreak (Post 35083632)
sorry mate I havent been playing on my name for a bit. So far so good here :D I do still get some lag but with games like mw2 where anyone can host its to be expected, the game seems to pick me as host quite a lot now and Ive not heard abuse down the headset so it must be ok for everyone else.

I just got it in my head it wont be perfect all the time, compared to TalkTalk its miles better, no peak time congestion making it unusable. Yep I remember Seph once advised me to check for kinks as a cause to my codewords. I no longer get the T3's either. I'll be on tonight so I might see you on there :)

Well if your getting selected as host a fair bit speedy then that is a good sign indeed IMO that your probs are well and truly behind you thankfully.

I,m quite interested in how these kinks can cause interference, just the mechanics behind why more than anything, I don't want to delve too deep or I'll just get :confused:

Catch ya for a blast if your on tonight then, I will be the one using all the naff weapons you don't normally use because they suck lol, last night I used the F2000 until I unlocked FMJ and it still sucked ass.

Oops sorry mods :shocked:

lowei 01-09-2010 15:52

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Hi pabscars
Trying to get host myself on MW2 is now nearly imposable.Codewords sneaking up a bit.Its just great that I'm on 50meg and cant get host.I play with a neighbour who's on 10meg virgin and he always gets host over me..Does the xbox pick a host with the best ping, our is it the best upload???


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