Cable Forum - General ESPN, BT, Euro, Premier and Sky Sports news

Premier Sports valued at £30m on a cash and debt-free basis.
Premier Sports has 222,000 paying subscribers and £26.4 million in 2021 revenues (Note: Profit/loss not stated)
All Premier Sports platforms will receive Viaplay branding and will continue to be available through existing distribution partners.
The content line-up available on the TV channels will, in due course, be expanded to include Viaplay's broader series and film offering.

cheekyangus

21-07-2022 10:27

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36128984)

Thanks for posting that.
[*]The content line-up available on the TV channels will, in due course, be expanded to include Viaplay's broader series and film offering.

2nd that thanks.

With a mixed genre broadcast offering, will they need to/decide to move EPG category once implemented? Just thinking out loud.

jfman

21-07-2022 11:41

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I wonder how 222,000 paying subscribers compares to the UK and Ireland operations of fledgeling streamer DAZN. It's a shame they don't public the figures and only really hit the news when Len needs to dig into his oil money to bail them out.

1andrew1

21-07-2022 15:14

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Interestingly, I see that a sister channel to Premier Sports, Premier Sports Asia, was set up several years after Setanta Sports Asia was sold to, and closed by, Discovery. So Setanta of Ireland clings onto sports broadcasting with this service having sold the others off with most rebranded except Setanta Sports Eurasia.
https://www.premiersportsasia.com/

ScottishSteve

22-07-2022 10:25

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Broadcast is reporting that the CMA approves BT Sport and Eurosport UK joint venture.
The companies will complete the creation of the JV in the coming weeks

TimeLord2018

22-07-2022 10:41

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Link to press release
https://wbd.com/warner-bros-discover...ture%ef%bf%bc/

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36128986)

2nd that thanks.

With a mixed genre broadcast offering, will they need to/decide to move EPG category once implemented? Just thinking out loud.

Depends what the channels are called they have channels called V Sport but also have ones called V Series and Film
https://www.viaplaygroup.com/brands/v-sport-series-film

1andrew1

22-07-2022 10:54

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Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36129067)

Depends what the channels are called they have channels called V Sport but also have ones called V Series and Film
https://www.viaplaygroup.com/brands/v-sport-series-film

I wonder if this could finally see the Box Nation brand buried?

cheekyangus

22-07-2022 15:04

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Well the Sky Sport UHD channel now has launch date of 27th July on Sky. No info on VM getting it in this article.
https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/sky-sports...nch-in-uhd-hdr

Mad Max

22-07-2022 19:03

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36129084)

Well the Sky Sport UHD channel now has launch date of 27th July on Sky. No info on VM getting it in this article.
https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/sky-sports...nch-in-uhd-hdr

Dragging their heels as usual. :rolleyes:

Gavin-D

23-07-2022 15:39

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Originally Posted by cheekyangus (Post 36129084)

Well the Sky Sport UHD channel now has launch date of 27th July on Sky. No info on VM getting it in this article.
https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/sky-sports...nch-in-uhd-hdr

I highly doubt sky will be quick to pass on its UHD channel for sports, tbh. Look how long they held on to the exclusivity for the HD channels

TimeLord2018

23-07-2022 15:46

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Depends what the terms are with Sky when they signed their carriage agreement in July 2019 - Live Sports in UHD is mentioned in it.

jfman

23-07-2022 19:41

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Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36129181)

Depends what the terms are with Sky when they signed their carriage agreement in July 2019 - Live Sports in UHD is mentioned in it.

Channel 4 HD
Sky Atlantic

The list of things stated or vaguely implied in Virgin press releases that take years to, or even never, come to fruition goes on and on.

TimeLord2018

23-07-2022 19:47

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Sky Atlantic has never been mentioned or even impiled In any Virgin press release , not sure what Channel 4 HD is referring to be honest.

Some things announced do seem to take away - Sky Cinema and Sky Entertainment in UHD was only added in March 2021.

Although the carriage agreement is probably up for renewal next year.

Dave42

23-07-2022 20:02

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Originally Posted by Mad Max (Post 36129106)

Dragging their heels as usual. :rolleyes:

VM have no control of when sky will let them have SS UHD sadly

OLD BOY

23-07-2022 20:18

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36129207)

Channel 4 HD
Sky Atlantic

The list of things stated or vaguely implied in Virgin press releases that take years to, or even never, come to fruition goes on and on.

It’s Sky that have refused to give us Sky Atlantic as they see it as a commercial advantage.

VM hasn’t allowed Sky to have the Virgin Ultra HD channel either.

What’s C4 got to do with anything?

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Originally Posted by Dave42 (Post 36129210)

VM have no control of when sky will let them have SS UHD sadly

Other than what the carriage deal specified says, yes.

jfman

23-07-2022 20:33

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36129213)

What’s C4 got to do with anything?

https://www.cableforum.uk/article/36...with-channel-4

Article dated 10 October 2007.

Actual launch date: 31 July 2009.

As with all things VM don't hold your breath.

OLD BOY

23-07-2022 20:41

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36129223)

https://www.cableforum.uk/article/36...with-channel-4

Article dated 10 October 2007.

Actual launch date: 31 July 2009.

As with all things VM don't hold your breath.

Your point being? By the way, you do understand that they were talking about C4 on demand, don’t you? That is, not the channel on the EPG.

My point was that the continuation of C4 SD on Virgin had nothing to do with Sky.

jfman

23-07-2022 20:50

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36129226)

It literally says:

Quote:

In addition, the deal gives Virgin Media the option of carrying the upcoming Channel 4 HD

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Originally Posted by TimeLord2018

Sky Atlantic can be inferred from an interpretation of this article

https://www.techradar.com/news/telev...it-mean-694106

Quote:

"Virgin Media will, for the first time, have the option of carrying any of Sky's basic HD channels, Sky Sports HD 1 and Sky Sports HD 2, and all Sky Movies HD channels,"

I'm not really sure what the difficulty in understanding my post was - merely that with anything Virgin Media I'd not hold my breath for content to appear quickly.

OLD BOY

23-07-2022 21:07

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36129232)

It literally says:

.

OK, I understand where you are coming from, but the C4 HD channel,was an option, that was all. The C4 OD was agreed, and was implemented.

It was nothing to do with Sky, though, which you implied.

jfman

23-07-2022 21:09

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36129248)

OK, I understand where you are coming from, but the C4 HD channel,was an option, that was all. The C4 OD was agreed, and was implemented.

It was nothing to do with Sky, though, which you implied.

I implied no such thing.

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Originally Posted by jfman

The list of things stated or vaguely implied in Virgin press releases that take years to, or even never, come to fruition goes on and on.

At no point was it implied there was a link - other than Virgin Media - between the two things on the list.

OLD BOY

24-07-2022 11:47

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36129249)

I implied no such thing.

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OK, I can see that. I assumed you were responding to TimeLord’s post, which was quoted in your reply.

Gavin-D

29-07-2022 15:23

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Reports BT Sport Ultimate is testing on Sky

ozsat

31-07-2022 10:24

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It is launching as a Red Button service on 4th Aug.

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Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 36129799)

Reports BT Sport Ultimate is testing on Sky

Mad Max

04-08-2022 20:09

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I just got an email from Virgin saying this...Your UHD channel guide is here!

I've looked through the mail and I cannot find anywhere within the mail any sports channels that are in UHD, even though they promote the EPL etc.
Has anyone else had this email?

Hugh	04-08-2022 21:32

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I’ve had the email, and, as you say, nothing in it about UHD sport.

Scanning through the VM TV Control App, it shows on 531 (Ultimate BT Sport, which is the BT UHD channel)

Sat 6th Aug
11:30 Live Premier League, Fulham v Liverpool
17:00 Live National League, Scunthorpe v Yeovil

We’d 10th Aug
UEFA Super Cup, Real Madrid v Eintracht Frankfurt

Sat 13th Aug
11:00 EPL Villa v Everton
17:00 National League Oldham v Dorking

Mon 15th
19:45 Serie A Juventas v Sassuolo

Media Boy UK

04-08-2022 22:11

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Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 36129799)

Reports BT Sport Ultimate is testing on Sky

Quote:

Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36129927)

It is launching as a Red Button service on 4th Aug.

BT Sport UHD launch on Sky now "on hold".

1andrew1

05-08-2022 16:15

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The UHD channel is definitely coming to BT's pubs and clubs customers this year so this may have been what was being tested on Sky.

Not sure if we'll see a 6.8% rise to consumer pricing in due course too.

https://www.cableforum.uk/board/atta...0&d=1659712493

https://www.morningadvertiser.co.uk/...-rise-for-pubs

1701-e

12-08-2022 15:09

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Ten La Liga games per season on ITV https://www.itv.com/football/article...ee-season-deal

1andrew1

12-08-2022 17:08

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Originally Posted by 1701-e (Post 36131079)

Ten La Liga games per season on ITV https://www.itv.com/football/article...ee-season-deal

A sensible move to raise the league's profile.

jfman

12-08-2022 17:40

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36131092)

A sensible move to raise the league's profile.

Good to see the paupers in linear television bag more rights as the deep pocket streamers retreat under an avalanche of debt.

Deep pockets DAZN have TWO bang average pay per view events in a little over a month coming up.

TimeLord2018

15-08-2022 13:14

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36131092)

A sensible move to raise the league's profile.

I suspect the reason for that is because Freesports is no longer on Freeview and it was removed from Freesat 2 years ago.

Viaplay will probably rebrand it and turn it into something entirely different.

vincerooney

16-08-2022 01:45

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36131092)

A sensible move to raise the league's profile.

i think they had a bigger profile then they were on sky sports and were the second biggest league after the premier league in terms of ratings...

Now they're well behind due to greed

1andrew1

16-08-2022 10:46

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Originally Posted by vincerooney (Post 36131406)

i think they had a bigger profile then they were on sky sports and were the second biggest league after the premier league in terms of ratings...

Now they're well behind due to greed

Agreed.
Think they will rise in prominence again with the ITV deal and the takeover of Premier Sports by Viaplay but they can never match the excitement of the Premier League due to their domination by Barcelona.

TimeLord2018

17-08-2022 11:14

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ITV and NFL announce three-year partnership
https://www.itv.com/presscentre/pres...ar-partnership

Media Boy UK

20-08-2022 20:03

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BT Sport to show 8 PL games over 2 nights:

Aug. 30th:
C Palace V Brentford (BT3)
Fulham V Brighton (BT4)
Southampton V Chelsea (BT2)
Leeds V Everton (BT1 & UHD)

Aug. 31st:
Arsenal V A Villa (BT4)
M City V N Forest (BT3)
W Ham V Tottenham (BT2)
Liverpool V Newcastle (BT1 & UHD)

telegramsam

21-08-2022 14:35

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Watching Leeds v Chelsea,what a howler from the Chelsea keeper!

ozsat

21-08-2022 14:49

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They are actually showing 10 games over three nights.

31st also sees AFC Bournemouth v Wolverhamption Wanderers on BTS5 - so five that night. Should be on Red Button on VM and Sky.

1st Sept has Leicester City v Manchester United on BTS1 and Ultimate.

As they are covering French and German football at the same time - all ten BTS channels will have live football at the same time on 31st Aug.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36131871)

telegramsam

21-08-2022 15:13

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I find this sort of thing annoying because you can't watch all of the games plus I work nights so miss Wednesday and Thursday games!

1andrew1

21-08-2022 21:59

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'Crown jewel’ sporting events could go behind paywall without new law, claim BBC and ITV

TV chiefs say 'urgent changes are required' for public sector broadcasters - Paul Grover

“Crown jewel” sporting events such as the Olympics and World Cup risk going behind a paywall unless the Government presses ahead with new legislation, the bosses of BBC and ITV warn.

In a joint letter published in The Telegraph, the BBC’s director-general and ITV’s chief executive make a plea to ministers to introduce a media bill “needed to secure the future of British broadcasting and allow it to prosper”.

In the letter, Tim Davie and Carolyn McCall, the bosses at BBC and ITV respectively, warn that “urgent changes are required” if public sector broadcasters are to maintain their role as “the bedrock of great British content”.

The letter, also signed by the bosses of Channel 5, STV and S4C, reminds the Government of its commitment to introduce a new media bill almost 20 years after the last one.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainm...eb617909f79f2c

OLDGOLD

26-08-2022 21:28

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Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36131871)

They're showing the Wolves game on BT Sport 5 according to their tv schedule. Is BT Sport 5 available on VM?

johnasimmons

27-08-2022 05:56

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Originally Posted by OLDGOLD (Post 36132534)

They're showing the Wolves game on BT Sport 5 according to their tv schedule. Is BT Sport 5 available on VM?

its what they now call their red button access - go to channel 527 (BT Sports 1) and press the red button :)

Media Boy UK

01-09-2022 10:39

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Warner Bros. Discovery and BT Group have closed their deal to create a sports joint venture in the U.K. and Ireland.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/bu...re-1235191716/

OLD BOY

01-09-2022 12:05

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Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36132924)

Warner Bros. Discovery and BT Group have closed their deal to create a sports joint venture in the U.K. and Ireland.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/bu...re-1235191716/

There will be more consolidation of sports channels as time goes on, which is good news for sports fans as it should mean fewer subscriptions necessary.

jfman

01-09-2022 12:30

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36132930)

There will be more consolidation of sports channels as time goes on, which is good news for sports fans as it should mean fewer subscriptions necessary.

:rofl: okay Mystic Meg, we will keep paying through the nose for your pipe dream in the meantime. Warner/Discovery aren’t even in the premium sports market.

Hugh	01-09-2022 12:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36132930)

There will be more consolidation of sports channels as time goes on, which is good news for sports fans as it should mean fewer subscriptions necessary.

Mmmm (stands for monopoly).

Fewer choices, higher prices…

OLD BOY

01-09-2022 14:01

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36132932)

:rofl: okay Mystic Meg, we will keep paying through the nose for your pipe dream in the meantime. Warner/Discovery aren’t even in the premium sports market.

Eurosport have a subscription service, jfman.

Media Boy UK

01-09-2022 14:07

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36132930)

There will be more consolidation of sports channels as time goes on, which is good news for sports fans as it should mean fewer subscriptions necessary.

It happening right now with:

Premier Sports set to be took over by Viaplay

https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broad...OJ-0ws.twitter

1andrew1

01-09-2022 14:36

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Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36132945)

It happening right now with:

Premier Sports set to be took over by Viaplay

https://www.broadcastnow.co.uk/broad...OJ-0ws.twitter

I view it more as a change of Premier Sports' ownership from Setanta to Viaplay, as Viaplay does not have an existing UK-Ireland service. So different from the market consolidation between Eurosport and BT Sport.

Media Boy UK

01-09-2022 14:46

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36132948)

I hope Viaplay do something with BoxNation - everytime I tune in it Boxing from month/years ago.

jfman

01-09-2022 14:51

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Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36132944)

Eurosport have a subscription service, jfman.

Whether that’s premium sports or not is another matter. The vast, vast, vast majority of homes in the UK and Ireland that receive Eurosport do so in basic packages.

Even the over the top package at £39 a year is bargain basement compared to fledgling streamer DAZN, established linear broadcaster Premier Sports, never mind getting to the major rights holders in this country.

1andrew1

01-09-2022 17:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36132949)

I hope Viaplay do something with BoxNation - everytime I tune in it Boxing from month/years ago.

Viaplay have said that they will re-brand the Premier Sports channels so I assume that includes the BoxNation brand which is licenced from George Warren.

The replacement channel is more than likely to be broader than just boxing due to Premier Sports' limited live fight rights.

OLD BOY

01-09-2022 18:57

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36132950)

Other consolidations in the future may have bigger impacts. I was just pointing out that the process was underway.

jfman

01-09-2022 19:05

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36132965)

Other consolidations in the future may have bigger impacts. I was just pointing out that the process was underway.

And they may not, but could just simply get price gouged at a higher price point between two or three providers at higher costs. See: energy.

1andrew1

02-09-2022 11:41

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Quote:

Originally Posted by OLD BOY (Post 36132965)

Other consolidations in the future may have bigger impacts. I was just pointing out that the process was underway.

The predicted recession should in theory encourage consolidation. I should point out that companies joining and leaving the sports market is nothing new with Setanta (2009), ESPN (2013), Eleven Sports (2019) and Boxing Channel Media t/a BoxNation (2019, brand then licensed to Premier Sports) all entering and leaving the UK market.

Against this, But we've also seen the entry of Amazon (2018) and DAZN (2020) into UK TV sports broadcasting.

The weakest sports provider in the UK now is probably DAZN. Although it's being propped up by a billionaire, I could see it eventually quitting the crowded UK market leaving two main players: Sky and WarnerBros Discovery-BT plus the two smaller players Viaplay and Amazon.

ozsat

10-09-2022 13:46

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Premier Sport and FreeSport are able to show live La Liga today at 3.15pm. Means PS1 are showing four live La Liga games back-to-back.

TimeLord2018

27-09-2022 10:16

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Sky Sports extends Scottish football offering until 2029 with more SPFL matches than ever before, and the addition of Scottish Women’s Premier League fixtures for the first time
https://www.skygroup.sky/article/sky...he-first-time-

1andrew1

27-09-2022 11:53

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DAZN buying Eleven Group.
https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2022...-eleven-group/

jfman

27-09-2022 12:25

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36135068)

As ever the SPFL undersell their product.

---------- Post added at 12:25 ---------- Previous post was at 12:25 ----------

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36135074)

DAZN buying Eleven Group.
https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2022...-eleven-group/

Makes sense, neither are going anywhere good soon. Might as well get big enough someone else might buy them in distress.

TimeLord2018

30-09-2022 10:56

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Sky and Formula 1 announce partnership extension across all Sky markets with greater exclusivity
https://www.skygroup.sky/article/-sk...er-exclusivity

1701-e

30-09-2022 14:49

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TimeLord2018 (Post 36135485)

Sky and Formula 1 announce partnership extension across all Sky markets with greater exclusivity
https://www.skygroup.sky/article/-sk...er-exclusivity

What a shame....

Aguero9320

30-09-2022 22:18

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36133053)

Don’t forget Disney have a barrel load of money! They have WWE rights in Asia and own ESPN, too. Disney have a real shot at the sports market.

Gavin-D

07-10-2022 09:08

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Why do Virgin Media not get commentary for all the red button matches from the Championship? Both nights this week, all the red button games were using the commentary from just one match

spiderplant

07-10-2022 09:41

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Originally Posted by Gavin-D (Post 36136234)

Why do Virgin Media not get commentary for all the red button matches from the Championship? Both nights this week, all the red button games were using the commentary from just one match

There is currently a fault with the Sky Sports Red Button sometimes giving the wrong audio stream. It's under investigation.

If you have the Sky Sports apps on a mobile device, you might be able to watch on there instead until it is fixed

telegramsam

07-10-2022 13:28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by spiderplant (Post 36136238)

I try to avoid red button games as I don't like the poor picture quality or the no replays

johnasimmons

08-10-2022 07:45

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The coverage and commentary, cameras etc is very hit & miss

telegramsam

08-10-2022 09:53

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Quote:

Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 36136299)

The coverage and commentary, cameras etc is very hit & miss

Yes you'd think in this day and age with the technology available it would be much better than it is

johnasimmons

08-10-2022 12:23

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Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 36136309)

Yes you'd think in this day and age with the technology available it would be much better than it is

It's usually one commentator & 1 camera which just follows the ball !

telegramsam

08-10-2022 12:56

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Quote:

Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 36136320)

It's usually one commentator & 1 camera which just follows the ball !

Yeah very poor offering in my opinion

muppetman11

29-10-2022 22:57

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Comcast to sell Sky Germany?

https://advanced-television.com/2022...l-sky-germany/

1andrew1

30-10-2022 11:10

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I don't know if there are similar changes for other Box Nation customers or just those through BT Sport. Behind the scenes, Premier Sports who licence the Box Nation brand will be rebranding to Via Play from November in line with their new parent company and BT Sport is now jointly owned with Warner Brothers Discovery.

Quote:

BoxNation with BT Sport
From Friday 4 November 2022, BoxNation will no longer be available to new BT Sport customers and from Thursday 17 November 2022, BoxNation and any recordings from the channel will no longer be available to existing BT Sport customers.

https://www.bt.com/help/bt-sport/box...-with-bt-sport

jfman

30-10-2022 11:18

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I’m amazed BoxNation is still a thing.

1andrew1

30-10-2022 12:35

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36138853)

I’m amazed BoxNation is still a thing.

I'm not sure what Viaplay will do with it. They may be obliged by the contract inherited from Premier Sports to keep it going for a bit. Time will tell.

telegramsam

30-10-2022 13:34

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Never watched anything on it. I take it it's a pay per view service?

jfman

30-10-2022 13:57

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Quote:

Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 36138862)

Never watched anything on it. I take it it's a pay per view service?

It was a subscription service that had Frank Warren cards (now on BT) and overnight boxing from the states most weekends. They did one pay per view event.

They’ve not had meaningful live boxing in about 5 years. If not longer.

telegramsam

30-10-2022 15:10

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36138863)

Ok thanks. Sounds like it won't survive much longer

1andrew1

30-10-2022 15:11

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Originally Posted by telegramsam (Post 36138868)

Ok thanks. Sounds like it won't survive much longer

I wonder if it will end on 17 November on all platforms?

ozsat

30-10-2022 15:16

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BoxNation schedules currently end on 11th November - but that is normal (two weeks).

1andrew1

30-10-2022 20:45

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Originally Posted by ozsat (Post 36138870)

BoxNation schedules currently end on 11th November - but that is normal (two weeks).

Was basing this question on BoxNation leaving BT Sport on 17th November and Viaplay not saying anything either way about its future.

Viaplay has however said FreeSports will continue as Viaplay Extra and Premier Sports 1 and Premier Sports 2 will become Viaplay Sports 1 and 2 respectively.

https://www.viaplaygroup.com/news/ne...-uk-1-november

Media Boy UK

30-10-2022 20:54

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36138880)

I did see web site reports that Viaplay may launch extra channels not broadcasting sports but Documentaries.

I cant post link as I forgot it.

Also Boxnation only changed transponder on Sky on October 26th.

https://forums.digitalspy.com/discus...ment_101764076

1andrew1

30-10-2022 21:06

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Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36138881)

From my weblink, Viaplay offers Nordic films and TV series too. They've not said anything about using this content to establish and entertainment channel but it's possible they could decide to do this in place of BoxNation.

telegramsam

01-11-2022 18:08

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36138883)

Be interesting to see what develops

Media Boy UK

12-11-2022 22:30

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Could Viaplay snap up EFL TV rights?

According to The Times, Sky UK and Viaplay are both in the race for the next rights to the EPL from Season 2024.

RXTV feels Warner Bros Discovery/BT Sport may also enter the race.

https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/could-viap...-efl-tv-rights

RichardCoulter

14-11-2022 19:37

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36138869)

I wonder if it will end on 17 November on all platforms?

Reports that Boxnation will be closing in mid December.

---------- Post added at 19:37 ---------- Previous post was at 19:36 ----------

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Originally Posted by Media Boy UK (Post 36138881)

I heard that they intend to start a film/entertainment channel. Perhaps they will be repurposing the Boxnation capacity for this??⁵

johnasimmons

15-11-2022 08:36

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Emailed to me from Virgin Media

From 14th December 2022, BoxNation will be closing on all platforms in the UK and will no longer be available.

Following on from the closure you will no longer be charged for BoxNation, and you’ll be automatically reimbursed if you’ve been billed for it already.

Thanks,

The Virgin Media team

1andrew1

15-11-2022 09:50

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Originally Posted by johnasimmons (Post 36139979)

That makes sense as Premier Sports took over the brand licence in December 2019 so Viaplay are probably seeing out a three-year contract.

Maybe the brand will re-appear on a gambling app or web site but the all-you-can-eat boxing channel TV model does not seem to work financially.

TimeLord2018

01-12-2022 11:14

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The first noticeable changes on BT Sport since Warner Bros. Discovery Joint Venture, Live Alpine Skiing World Cup is on BT Sport 2 on Saturday as both Eurosport channels are shown Live Sport at that time.

Media Boy UK

01-12-2022 14:38

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Viaplay inks IHF handball deal

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2022...medium=twitter

TimeLord2018

15-12-2022 10:23

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US Open Tennis returning to Sky Sports from 2023
https://www.skygroup.sky/en-gb/artic...orts-from-2023

1andrew1

22-12-2022 23:24

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Something to gladden Old Boy's heart. :)

Quote:

Google agrees NFL streaming deal as Big Tech chases sports rights

YouTube’s $14bn push into US league’s Sunday Ticket service signals threat to traditional broadcasters

Google’s YouTube has secured rights to broadcast some US National Football League matches from next season, in a landmark deal that signals how Big Tech is reshaping the market for live sports rights.

The package, which will run seven years beginning in 2023, will give the video site the exclusive rights to the “Sunday Ticket” subscription service beginning next season. The service allows US fans to watch any game shown on the biggest game day of the week.

The deal, worth more than $14bn according to a person familiar with the matter, is an additional service on top of the NFL’s current 11-year, $110bn broadcast agreement agreed last year, the most expensive live sports rights in the world.

“It’s a very loud wake-up call for traditional media companies,” said the chief executive of a longtime bidder for sports rights. “First Apple and now this . . . television, cable and satellite companies will struggle to respond”.

Sunday Ticket is a subscription service which allows viewers to pay to watch out-of-market NFL games not available on their local CBS or Fox affiliate channels, a quirk of the geographically diverse US landscape and the dense football schedule, with most games scheduled on Sunday afternoons.

https://www.ft.com/content/44953d73-...3-65661643c5fe

epsilon

25-12-2022 20:23

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36142475)

Something to gladden Old Boy's heart. :)

https://www.ft.com/content/44953d73-...3-65661643c5fe

If the UK market was as massive as the US market, maybe they would do something similar here, alas it isn't.

jfman

25-12-2022 21:48

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Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36142611)

If the UK market was as massive as the US market, maybe they would do something similar here, alas it isn't.

I agree on the point of the massive market - but I'll also add that it's a seven year deal.

Rights owners on this side of the pond have traditionally viewed short windows (3 years) as keeping operators on their toes, allowing them to ride the crest of the pay-tv wave as it has increased.

However I've been banging the drum for some time now that a barrier to entry for anyone is that they start from 0 customers and have to turn that around in year 3 into a profit to run the risk of being dumped because someone else comes along to blow you out the water.

If the Premier League, UEFA or anyone else wants Silicon Valley to blow the incumbents out the water it needs to give them the space to develop a product offering and customer base and generate a return for a number of years. Equally it should invite disproportionately higher bids from incumbents for the same reason - it allows them to close the door on a challenge for a longer period.

1andrew1

26-12-2022 13:13

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Originally Posted by epsilon (Post 36142611)

If the UK market was as massive as the US market, maybe they would do something similar here, alas it isn't.

Why the alas? I envisage this costing the end customer more.

jfman

26-12-2022 13:40

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36142623)

Why the alas? I envisage this costing the end customer more.

I think he means from the perspective of those who predict it ;)

epsilon

26-12-2022 20:22

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36142623)

Why the alas? I envisage this costing the end customer more.

Streaming generally does end up costing the end customer more. Jfman is correct, the "alas" is indeed meant to be from the perspective of those who predict it.

Aguero9320

27-12-2022 22:35

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Originally Posted by jfman (Post 36142614)

I wouldn’t be surprised if Disney+ (ESPN) or Paramount+ became serious competition bidding for sports rights. They’re both major players in the US and ESPN still exists, showing only college sports.

jfman

27-12-2022 23:12

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Originally Posted by Aguero9320 (Post 36142678)

They’ll defo be doing the sums. But unless 3 year deals or narrow geographic boundaries change the underlying economics of the business model doesn’t change.

1andrew1

28-12-2022 14:49

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That length of term issue is key when crucial rights like the Premier League are involved. I wonder what they will do at the next auction? Could they go for five years?

jfman

28-12-2022 15:13

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1 (Post 36142709)

That length of term issue is key when crucial rights like the Premier League are involved. I wonder what they will do at the next auction? Could they go for five years?

My sense is that the Premier League are most risk averse. At £11bn the global TV rights is the golden goose that underpins the value of the “franchises” to use the US term.

Rolling over the old contracts under the guise of COVID suggests a trepidation around the uncertainty. The fall in the value of the UK 2019-22 rights - correctly foreseen by Sky - and being unable to draw “streamers” meaningfully into the auction raises a lot of questions. As we enter a recession (for how long?) and central banks raise interest rates one could easily argue the market is more, not less, precarious.

I suspect the Premier League would want to see someone else - UEFA, Bundesliga, Serie A, etc. test out a new model first and see how the sums add up.

A broadcaster - not known - was certainly in advanced talks regarding the proposed Super League. If anyone wants to revive it’s corpse they’ll also have to tread carefully before making long term commitments.

UEFA could potentially consider Europe-wide rights to bring a streamer to the table. Even secondary rights (first/second picks in a given territory being sold as they are now). This would give a streaming service a massive market (400m+ people) and content most months of the season - a springboard from which to take on domestic leagues and cups around Europe.

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