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Sephiroth 08-05-2010 17:14
Re: Why I regret joining virgin media
 
For the curry, I was thinking of the Indian restaurant in that church in Adlington. It's still there, isn't it?

For the O2 thing - I'm on LLU. Chorley is shown on SamKnows as being on LLU. I'll PM you my details for the loan of the router!

I had the main socket upgraded before switching from BT ADSL to O2. So no problem getting to the test socket if I need to.

Cheers

speedfreak 08-05-2010 17:24
Re: Why I regret joining virgin media
 
Yep its still there, its a small world! hmmm you've put me in the mood for a curry now, I'll have to dig out some menus for later :) Like I said it might be worth you plugging direct to the test socket just to see if any internal wiring is stopping you hitting 3Mb. I'll post it this week, obviously marking the packet with your real name, Ive had strange looks off the postman when people have sent me stuff using forum names :D

pip08456 08-05-2010 20:00
Re: Why I regret joining virgin media
 
Just to make it smaller I know that curry house too. I used to live in Horwich,

speedfreak 08-05-2010 20:04
Re: Why I regret joining virgin media
 
So did I! Small world it is :)

speedfreak 09-05-2010 10:33
Re: Why I regret joining virgin media
 
Seph, just wondering, if you are on LLU have you rang o2 and asked them to try your line on a lower SNR? If you log on to your router and see what your downstream snr is it will give you an idea if it can be reduced. I think they are set at 6/9/12/15, if they are anything like TT then they set you at 12 or 15 and if you have a stable line they can reduce it at their end to give you more speed. I've looked on the o2 forums and a few on there have switched to the netgear with dgteam firmware, I'll pm you the settings you will need when Ive posted it :)

Sort of back on topic, Ive not had any box reboots since the box was swapped out for the samsung :)

Ignitionnet 09-05-2010 11:10
Re: Why I regret joining virgin media
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by speedfreak (Post 35017469)
Seph, just wondering, if you are on LLU have you rang o2 and asked them to try your line on a lower SNR? If you log on to your router and see what your downstream snr is it will give you an idea if it can be reduced. I think they are set at 6/9/12/15, if they are anything like TT then they set you at 12 or 15 and if you have a stable line they can reduce it at their end to give you more speed. I've looked on the o2 forums and a few on there have switched to the netgear with dgteam firmware, I'll pm you the settings you will need when Ive posted it :)

Sort of back on topic, Ive not had any box reboots since the box was swapped out for the samsung :)
Default SNR on O2, assuming no line issues forcing it to be set higher, is 6dB, you can ask them to drop it to 3 (which I have).

Be have an online control panel and you can set it yourself there from a few options in 3's :)

speedfreak 09-05-2010 11:12
Re: Why I regret joining virgin media
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Ignitionnet (Post 35017486)
Default SNR on O2, assuming no line issues forcing it to be set higher, is 6dB, you can ask them to drop it to 3 (which I have).

Be have an online control panel and you can set it yourself there from a few options in 3's :)
Thanks Ig, never having o2 I was having to guess, I was hoping you would join in and clarify :D

speedfreak 09-05-2010 16:50
Re: Why I regret joining virgin media
 
One thing Im going to mention to VM is that every tech visiting has said 50Mb has problems, the tech that changed the modem said he'd do it but it wont make a difference as 50Mb has issues with the modems. Fills me with confidence! My service has definitely improved though the BEST i can get on ping test is a b with jitter in the 40's

pabscars 09-05-2010 22:17
Re: Why I regret joining virgin media
 
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Originally Posted by speedfreak (Post 35016610)
no way am I paying 10.99!! Im waiting for someone to give me his account details so I can download for free but the swine aint replied yet, I did the same for a few people on WaW map packs :D

I actually feel guilty thinking of leaving, its like all their hard work would be a waste and I do like VM as a company, might even switch my mobile to them but not if it doesnt get fixed.

forgot to mention they are also looking at my SA V+ box randomly rebooting and I've just read digi fanatic say they are sensitive to snr issues. Maybe a repull will sort it who knows. One think I do know is that its JD n coke night and the lag suits me when drinking :D now get off that little boys console and get on the manly ps3 :)
Ha Ha, how did you know Ive been on my Xbox ;), only been on there because there was a load of my mates on MW2, and weve been having a right old giggle.

Re PS3 and MW2 you'll have to send me a message on it letting me know what you need.

Just for a quick update on my situation, it seems being on the old network suits me better, I noticed several times over the weekend that I was selected as host, which is always a good sign.

It was a bit laggy at times, but my connection managed to hold an 18 player game all the way through, and although I was struggling to kill the opposition, I,m putting that down to a lack of available upload bandwidth on the 20Mb tier.

Sephiroth 10-05-2010 00:24
Re: Why I regret joining virgin media
 
pabs

It's more likely upstream contention than bandwidth. You need to send frequent small packets and timings is everything obviously. If you don't get the timeslot, you don't get the game right.

750Kbps is more than enough bandwidth for any game.

pabscars 10-05-2010 08:18
Re: Why I regret joining virgin media
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35018056)
pabs

It's more likely upstream contention than bandwidth. You need to send frequent small packets and timings is everything obviously. If you don't get the timeslot, you don't get the game right.

750Kbps is more than enough bandwidth for any game.
I hear ya Seph, however I've no reason to believe this is the case, according to vm the upload never goes over 30% utilisation on the current channel I,m on. However the download frequently exceeds 80 to 90%

This is one of the reasons I was moved onto it in the first place apparently.

Just out of curiosity is 750Kbps enough for any game plus 2 way communication. Sorry it obviously is as I have proved this but what I mean is it possible I may be pushing the boundaries of the 20Mbps tier.

Much obliged:)

Sephiroth 10-05-2010 09:27
Re: Why I regret joining virgin media
 
My son is busy on CS while I'm doing all this and other stuff (including dowloads). I doubt you're pushing the boundaries unless you're P2P or torrenting at the same time (is that what you meant by 2 way communication).

pabscars 10-05-2010 11:13
Re: Why I regret joining virgin media
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth (Post 35018115)
My son is busy on CS while I'm doing all this and other stuff (including dowloads). I doubt you're pushing the boundaries unless you're P2P or torrenting at the same time (is that what you meant by 2 way communication).
Apologies for not making this clear,

No P2P (that I know of) or torrenting, I was referring purely to voice chat during game play as this must eat into your bandwidth to some degree I would imagine

Sephiroth 10-05-2010 11:24
Re: Why I regret joining virgin media
 
My son also uses voice chat (Ventrilo) and all's 100% OK. Voice doesn't take up bandwidth but it does require unimpeded upstream access.

pabscars 10-05-2010 11:36
Re: Why I regret joining virgin media
 
Thanks for clearing that up Seph, the next time I shoot at someone I will keep my trap shut :)

Speedy,,,,,,,,,, any news on the repull


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