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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Episode 8)
Excellent, excellent film. Very well made, and a thoughtful piece as well, which explores issues that have previously been taken for granted in the Star Wars universe, such as the interface between destiny and self-determination. Does history inevitably repeat itself? If the Force chooses you, what can you do about it? In many ways it’s summed up by what I think is my favourite line in the entire film, which challenges so many of the assumptions we bring to a Star Wars film. Probably going to misquote it as I’ve only seen it once (so far), but here goes nothin’:
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Kylo Ren, to Rey: “You have no place in this story. You're nobody. But not to me...”
Oh and I also love that we got to see Ben Kenobi’s wise saying about points of view played out in the three retellings of the story of Luke and Ben Solo.
Just brilliant. I’m looking for excuses to go again before the holidays are over.
I really liked it too. I started reading the Thrawn Trilogy books recently (currently just started the third) so maybe that had something to do with it. If anything i wish it had been longer and spent more time on the political and learning parts.
I've just seen and loved it. There were quite a few twists, such as what Luke did with the lightsabre Rey offered him (I was totally WTF?! about that), and Kylo taking a leaf out of the book of the Sith, i.e.:
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I honestly didn't see that coming. I'm amazed Snoke didn't, either...
But I'd still like to know who Snoke actually was, and where he'd been in the heyday of the Empire...and why Darth Sidious didn't sense his power. Plus I am not convinced Kylo told Rey the truth about her parents; if they and she were "nothing", how is it that she's so powerful with no training whatsoever, possessing an almost instinctual grasp of her abilities - as she showed in The Force Awakens; how did she know how to pull off the Jedi Mind Trick? How did she even know she could do that?
It seems too obvious an answer, but I'd like to think she's either Luke's daughter, or Leia's (perhaps conceived during her estrangement from Han). That ability with the Force had to come from somewhere. Or maybe there were a few Jedi survivors other than Obi-Wan and Yoda who had the sense to go underground and bide their time, as Olee Starstone did in the novel Dark Lord: The Rise Of Darth Vader...
I wonder what Rey will think when she starts seeing Force ghosts, as I'm sure she will? Knowing her, she'll likely try to brain 'em with that staff of hers!
Go, BB-8, go!!! He put Artoo to shame in this film!
One more question I really wanted answered: how did Maz acquire Luke's lightsabre?!
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Episode 8)
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But I'd still like to know who Snoke actually was, and where he'd been in the heyday of the Empire...and why Darth Sidious didn't sense his power. Plus I am not convinced Kylo told Rey the truth about her parents; if they and she were "nothing", how is it that she's so powerful with no training whatsoever, possessing an almost instinctual grasp of her abilities - as she showed in The Force Awakens; how did she know how to pull off the Jedi Mind Trick? How did she even know she could do that?
It seems too obvious an answer, but I'd like to think she's either Luke's daughter, or Leia's (perhaps conceived during her estrangement from Han). That ability with the Force had to come from somewhere. Or maybe there were a few Jedi survivors other than Obi-Wan and Yoda who had the sense to go underground and bide their time, as Olee Starstone did in the novel Dark Lord: The Rise Of Darth Vader...
I wonder what Rey will think when she starts seeing Force ghosts, as I'm sure she will? Knowing her, she'll likely try to brain 'em with that staff of hers!
Go, BB-8, go!!! He put Artoo to shame in this film!
One more question I really wanted answered: how did Maz acquire Luke's lightsabre?![/FONT]
I think the film made it obvious that Rey's parents are significant. It spent far too long telling us they aren't. If they weren't, why go to such lengths?
I suspect that her father is possibly Luke, or one of her parents is a descendant of Obi Wan (Obi Wan himself would be too old).
Maybe there was disagreement between the two directors on Ray's parents. Rian Johnson does seem to have jettisoned JJ Abrams' story arcs. Snoke? Dead. Ray's parents? Not important.
I like the choice, assuming it sticks, for Ray's parents not to be another Skywalker/important figure. It also frees up the franchise to move beyond the initial three films and universe. Why does every important figure have to be related? The theme of the film is to spread it out the force and story behind Luke, Han and Leia. The choice not to have Ray's parents 'be' someone, the whole 'let the past die' stuff, the 'we're the spark that lights the fire' line and the kid at the end.
They've deviated from the formula of a Star Wars film and from the story. It lets them do what they want without having to find a way to shoehorn the old characters into it.
I am very disapointed it didn't have a nod to Carrie at the end, unless it came later.
it did and it was very soon after the credits rolled so you must have shot out the door pretty fast for a wee. It says something like "in loving memory of our Princess Carrie Fisher".
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Re: Star Wars: The Last Jedi (Episode 8)
Yup, there was an end credit note accompanied by a snippet of Princess Leia’s theme on piano. At the screening I was at, the lights stayed down until after that point.
I thought it was good but wasn't amazed enough to be dying to watch again when the bluray comes out. Which is kinda weird as some films that aren't that great i really enjoy rewatching.
I started reading the Star Wars books lately so maybe they raised my expectations too high. Started with the Thrawn Trilogy and on the X-Wing ones at the moment and i'm enjoying them much more than the movies.