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Old 18-05-2017, 08:48   #1441
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The Deputy Attorney General has appointed a 'special counsel' to oversee the Russian investigation.

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The United States Department of Justice has announced that a special counsel has been appointed to investigate Russian interference into last year's presidential election and links or coordination with the campaign of President Donald Trump.
Trump and the White House were only told 30 minutes before the announcement but didn't react badly apparently. I think they must have known this was coming at some point.

I think it's a better outcome for Trump really. I suspect that for him this was end up being a Clinton-level e-mail scandal. That there is evidence of poor behavior but nothing illegal. Maybe some of his advisers might be in trouble (Flynn etc). But Trump was heading for serious trouble just because he seems to put his foot in it. Any investigation he has power over was bound to cause trouble. As it's independent he can't do that and it also avoids questioning for now because all sides can just say 'it's being investigated'.

Flynn though might be trouble: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/poli...151149702.html

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One of the Trump administration’s first decisions about the fight against the Islamic State was made by Michael Flynn weeks before he was fired – and it conformed to the wishes of Turkey, whose interests, unbeknownst to anyone in Washington, he’d been paid more than $500,000 to represent.
He seems to have made a decision about the United States foreign policy that helped Turkey who was paying him! :O
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Old 18-05-2017, 09:11   #1442
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The Deputy Attorney General has appointed a 'special counsel' to oversee the Russian investigation.

http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/rober...es_bsq_related



Trump and the White House were only told 30 minutes before the announcement but didn't react badly apparently. I think they must have known this was coming at some point.

I think it's a better outcome for Trump really. I suspect that for him this was end up being a Clinton-level e-mail scandal. That there is evidence of poor behavior but nothing illegal. Maybe some of his advisers might be in trouble (Flynn etc). But Trump was heading for serious trouble just because he seems to put his foot in it. Any investigation he has power over was bound to cause trouble. As it's independent he can't do that and it also avoids questioning for now because all sides can just say 'it's being investigated'.

Flynn though might be trouble: http://www.miamiherald.com/news/poli...151149702.html



He seems to have made a decision about the United States foreign policy that helped Turkey who was paying him! :O
Seems like he might not have been the only one taking payments from a foreign power

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...e8c_story.html
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Old 18-05-2017, 10:34   #1443
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

I think the best thing that Trump could do is to shut down his social media account and spend a bit more time thinking about what he says and does. I dare say there are many decent people around him who're pulling their hair out with frustration.
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I think the best thing that Trump could do is to shut down his social media account and spend a bit more time thinking about what he says and does. I dare say there are many decent people around him who're pulling their hair out with frustration.
There are no decent people around him, that's his problem.
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I think the best thing that Trump could do is to shut down his social media account and spend a bit more time thinking about what he says and does. I dare say there are many decent people around him who're pulling their hair out with frustration.
I think he needs to fire some of his staff. Get some who'll tell him when he is going off the reservation and filter his twitter feed. There is no way a competent staff with permission to control his twitter account would have allowed that tweet about Obama tapping his phones or the suggestion he has taped his conversations with Corney.
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I think he needs to fire some of his staff. Get some who'll tell him when he is going off the reservation and filter his twitter feed. There is no way a competent staff with permission to control his twitter account would have allowed that tweet about Obama tapping his phones or the suggestion he has taped his conversations with Corney.
That too possibly. It'd be interesting to know whether he has been warned by advisors but chosen to ignore that advice in which case we might have expected some resignations by now wouldn't we?
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

He's off again: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...69927644340224

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With all of the illegal acts that took place in the Clinton campaign & Obama Administration, there was never a special councel appointed!
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That link no longer works -the spelling has been corrected and the new link is:
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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

He might well be right about the double standards but he just needs to shut up and think before he tweets. Right now he's just giving his enemies the ammunition to shoot him with.

I think I might come up with an app which delays all social media messages, texts etc by 24 hours just to allow people time to calm down before they react to events and make fools of themselves. Maybe I could become a cyber-millionaire...

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Re: U.S President: Donald Trump

I suspect US intelligence will be doing a bit of grovelling to Israel at the moment!
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Don’t trust US president with Israel’s secrets, say ex-Mossad chiefs
Two former heads of the Mossad have urged Israel to withhold intelligence from the US after President Trump passed classified information to the Russians.
Danny Yatom, a former director of the spy agency, called the leak a “grave violation” and said Israel should “punish” Washington for it. “We need to abstain from transferring information to [Trump], or to only give him partial information, so that he can’t endanger a source,” said Mr Yatom, who led the agency from 1999 to 2001.
His predecessor, Shabtai Shavit, suggested that the new president was a danger to Israeli assets.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/w...ssad-0qrrktmzf (subscription needed for full article)

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He might well be right about the double standards but he just needs to shut up and think before he tweets. Right now he's just giving his enemies the ammunition to shoot him with.

I think I might come up with an app which delays all social media messages, texts etc by 24 hours just to allow people time to calm down before they react to events and make fools of themselves. Maybe I could become a cyber-millionaire...
The singer Adele says her management don't allow her to use Twitter herself because she's a bit hot-headed on it. Trump should follow this advice as well.
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Israel needs to be careful given their reliance on the US and trumps habit of knee jerk response style they need the US a lot more then the US needs them. Trump does need someone to calm him and post on social media more relaxed then he has in the past. I expected there to be a period of adjustment for donald trump from businessman to politician and that it could take a while but he isn't making progress at the rate he needs too. While i still believe he was a better choice then clinton he needs to start rising to the job rather then allowing himself to be constantly distracted by the washington establishment and the liberal press and he needs to get the investigation into russia handled.
 
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Israel needs to be careful given their reliance on the US and trumps habit of knee jerk response style they need the US a lot more then the US needs them. Trump does need someone to calm him and post on social media more relaxed then he has in the past. I expected there to be a period of adjustment for donald trump from businessman to politician and that it could take a while but he isn't making progress at the rate he needs too. While i still believe he was a better choice then clinton he needs to start rising to the job rather then allowing himself to be constantly distracted by the washington establishment and the liberal press and he needs to get the investigation into russia handled.
Why would israel be careful, they never have been before

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If nothing else the military and financial support they gain from the US which is an increasing bone of contention with many in the US and i suspect more would be happy for trump to cut it then those who would not. Also as good as mossad is they are heavily reliant on US provided intelligence and resources and could not easily replace that capability.
 
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So, this so called ghost memo appears, apparently written by the fired former FBI Director, James Comey and this memo is suppose to outline that Comey was pressured to drop the Flynn investigation by Trump....

...But hold on a tick, on May 3rd just over two weeks ago, months after this so called Feb meeting with Trump and Comey, Comey Testifies under oath that in his experience, the FBI has not been told for political reasons to drop any investigation.....

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So, this so called ghost memo appears, apparently written by the fired former FBI Director, James Comey and this memo is suppose to outline that Comey was pressured to drop the Flynn investigation by Trump....

...But hold on a tick, on May 3rd just over two weeks ago, months after this so called Feb meeting with Trump and Comey, Comey Testifies under oath that in his experience, the FBI has not been told for political reasons to drop any investigation.....

The questioner is referring to the Attorney General or Department of Justice and if they can halt it. Since the accusation here is that it was the White House it doesn't contradict that statement so he won't get in trouble about being under oath.

Either way we'll see if Corney has anything more substantive to the accusation next week.
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