General Virgin testing 2.2 Gbps

Tricky Trevor · 25-09-2020, 06:51

Interesting

https://www.choose.co.uk/news/2020/v...and-berkshire/

General Maximus · 25-09-2020, 19:37

not true, dont believe a word of it

Pierre · 25-09-2020, 20:34

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not true, dont believe a word of it

?????

Er, it is true.

DOCSIS 3.1 can deliver 10G, each step up will have to be carefully planned and implemented but these upgrades will be on a rolling programme.

Skie · 25-09-2020, 20:37

They blab about something like this every few years, usually whenever a competitor beats their last max speed. It's not hard to hit a high number in lab-like conditions, and gives them a cheap headline and a bit of real-world data.

Pierre · 25-09-2020, 20:55

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They blab about something like this every few years, usually whenever a competitor beats their last max speed. It's not hard to hit a high number in lab-like conditions, and gives them a cheap headline and a bit of real-world data.

It’s not “lab Conditions”.

As I have said, the equipment they have is 10G capable. It will be a challenge on various parts of the network, but CIN and RPhy will get us there.

In regards to the 2G, that is quite simply turning up the dial on what is already in place. Once 1G is rolled out nationwide,they are just signposting that 2G is already there.

General Maximus · 25-09-2020, 21:06

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Er, it is true.

I wait for a mind blowing explanation as to how >2gbit speeds were achieved using a router with 1gbit ports.

Pierre · 25-09-2020, 21:47

The speeds were delivered via the existing cable network using DOCSIS 3.1 broadband technology and the Hub 4. The trial also provided average upload speeds of 214Mbps.

To overcome the issue if the 1G ports they partnered with SamKnows who delevoped a clever little speed tester that will actually run the test within the Hub4. This removed the usual restrictions with the 1Gb Ethernet ports.

This, apparently, is a live feature on the network today and all Hub4 customers can access this via www.samknows.com/realspeed. SamKnows will then accurately run a speed test in accordance to the OFCOM Speed Code and return the results back to the customer in just under 30 secs.

If you’re on the Gig1 service or on the latest Hub4 then You can try it. Hub3 users not yet.

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I wait for a mind blowing explanation as to how >2gbit speeds were achieved using a router with 1gbit ports.

How’s your mind?

Skie · 25-09-2020, 22:12

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It’s not “lab Conditions”.

Why do you think I said "lab-like"?

Easy to choose a part of the network with the right conditions to give you the expected outcomes.

Pierre · 25-09-2020, 22:14

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Why do you think I said "lab-like"?
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Well it’s not that either, it was done in the field on existing network

General Maximus · 25-09-2020, 23:07

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How’s your mind?

Deflated by a misrepresented bodge job

rtho782 · 28-09-2020, 18:57

Given the 1G limitation this is pointless.

Absolutely stupid to release a new hub where it's day 1 speed tier is higher than it can achieve to any device due to only having 1G ports. A single SFP+ cage would have had minimal costs.

I can't believe that there are many people who would pay for 2.2G broadband that wouldn't also want to use modem mode, so even the multi device argument is out the window.

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DOCSIS 3.1 can deliver 10G

The Hub 4 definitely can't, even if you play the "multiple devices in router mode" angle as it doesn't have 10G worth of LAN interfaces total.

BenMcr · 28-09-2020, 19:42

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Absolutely stupid to release a new hub where it's day 1 speed tier is higher than it can achieve to any device due to only having 1G ports. A single SFP+ cage would have had minimal costs.

Except Arris/Commscope don't do a cable gateway like that. Liberty Global can't install a product that doesn't exist.

https://www.commscope.com/product-ty...teways-modems/

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At the point the Hub 4 was locked down for its specs, they didn't do a 2.5Gbit Ethernet product either.

rtho782 · 28-09-2020, 20:00

There are plenty of modems a out that at least support link aggregation, which would have been a big improvement.

BenMcr · 28-09-2020, 20:07

Arris are one of Liberty Global's technology partners. They made the Hub 3, Hub 4 and the V6 hardware along with other network hardware in both Virgin Media and the wider Liberty Global network.

So it would have been odd to pick another supplier for the Hub 4 based on the existing relationship.

Pierre · 28-09-2020, 21:03

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Originally Posted by rtho782

Given the 1G limitation this is pointless.

Absolutely stupid to release a new hub where it's day 1 speed tier is higher than it can achieve to any device due to only having 1G ports. A single SFP+ cage would have had minimal costs.

I can't believe that there are many people who would pay for 2.2G broadband that wouldn't also want to use modem mode, so even the multi device argument is out the window.

It’s not a product. 2G won’t be offered for god knows when. It was an exercise to prove that 2G is capable on the HFC network to be rolled when ready.

I wouldn’t expect 2G to be available for a couple of years at least, probably more. More than enough time to for new hardware to rolled out.

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The Hub 4 definitely can't, even if you play the "multiple devices in router mode" angle as it doesn't have 10G worth of LAN interfaces total.

Of course it can’t, i don’t understand what you’re getting upset about. 10G when lands could be a decade away.