Home News Forum Articles
  Welcome back Join CF
You are here You are here: Home | Forum | Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest which gives you limited access to view most of the discussions, articles and other free features. By joining our Virgin Media community you will have full access to all discussions, be able to view and post threads, communicate privately with other members (PM), respond to polls, upload your own images/photos, and access many other special features. Registration is fast, simple and absolutely free so please join our community today.


Welcome to Cable Forum
Go Back   Cable Forum > General Discussion > Current Affairs

Updated: Boris resigns as party leader
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 05-08-2022, 22:10   #3976
1andrew1
cf.mega poster
 
Join Date: Dec 2013
Posts: 12,313
1andrew1 has a bronze array1andrew1 has a bronze array1andrew1 has a bronze array
1andrew1 has a bronze array1andrew1 has a bronze array1andrew1 has a bronze array1andrew1 has a bronze array1andrew1 has a bronze array1andrew1 has a bronze array1andrew1 has a bronze array1andrew1 has a bronze array1andrew1 has a bronze array1andrew1 has a bronze array1andrew1 has a bronze array1andrew1 has a bronze array1andrew1 has a bronze array1andrew1 has a bronze array1andrew1 has a bronze array1andrew1 has a bronze array1andrew1 has a bronze array1andrew1 has a bronze array1andrew1 has a bronze array
Re: Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
In your mind, what characterises "extreme right wing"?
Tearing up international agreements, threatening to leave the ECHR, banning protests, deporting refugees to Rwanda, climate change denial...

Last edited by 1andrew1; 05-08-2022 at 22:29.
1andrew1 is online now   Reply With Quote
Advertisement
Old 05-08-2022, 22:49   #3977
Sephiroth
Simples
 
Sephiroth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: RG41
Services: 1 Gbps; Hub 4 MM; ASUS RT-AX88U; Ultimate VOLT. BT Infinity2; Devolo 1200AV
Posts: 10,457
Sephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny star
Sephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny star
Re: Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

Quote:
Originally Posted by 1andrew1 View Post
Tearing up international agreements, threatening to leave the ECHR, banning protests, deporting refugees to Rwanda, climate change denial...
Well, I wasn't asking you but I suppose there's value in receiving wider inputs.

In my mind, "extreme right wing" is a tendency toward forms of racism; a tendency toward autocracy; intolerance of various political thought or religions.

Your list doesn't come anywhere near a right wing ideology.
__________________
Seph.

My advice is at your risk.
Sephiroth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2022, 23:15   #3978
TheDaddy
cf.mega pornstar
 
TheDaddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 17,902
TheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden aura
TheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden aura
Re: Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
Well, I wasn't asking you but I suppose there's value in receiving wider inputs.

In my mind, "extreme right wing" is a tendency toward forms of racism; a tendency toward autocracy; intolerance of various political thought or religions.

Your list doesn't come anywhere near a right wing ideology.
Sounds like attacking peoples right to strike or protest might fall into those categories as would potentially making it illegal for people to vilify Britain and obviously by extension them
__________________
Sports Babble
TheDaddy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 05-08-2022, 23:23   #3979
Sephiroth
Simples
 
Sephiroth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: RG41
Services: 1 Gbps; Hub 4 MM; ASUS RT-AX88U; Ultimate VOLT. BT Infinity2; Devolo 1200AV
Posts: 10,457
Sephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny star
Sephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny star
Re: Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy View Post
Sounds like attacking peoples right to strike or protest might fall into those categories as would potentially making it illegal for people to vilify Britain and obviously by extension them
Certainly the second point you made. But I donít see the right to strike as being under threat - just a few sensible controls Around it.
__________________
Seph.

My advice is at your risk.
Sephiroth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2022, 00:11   #3980
TheDaddy
cf.mega pornstar
 
TheDaddy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 17,902
TheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden aura
TheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden auraTheDaddy has a golden aura
Re: Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post
Certainly the second point you made. But I donít see the right to strike as being under threat - just a few sensible controls Around it.
We've already got sensible controls, put it like this if the same measure was used to return MP's or councillors we wouldn't have any of them and that might not be a bad thing
__________________
Sports Babble
TheDaddy is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2022, 14:18   #3981
OLD BOY
Rise above the players
 
OLD BOY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Wokingham
Services: 2 V6 boxes with 360 software, Now, Amazon, Netflix, Starzplay, Apple+TV, Disney+, VM broadband
Posts: 13,748
OLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronze
OLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronze
Re: Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheDaddy View Post
Sounds like attacking peoples right to strike or protest might fall into those categories as would potentially making it illegal for people to vilify Britain and obviously by extension them
Obviously you donít care one iota about the majority whose lives are disrupted by a selfish minority.

Oh, and incidentally, the government has not, and does not intend to ban protests.
__________________
Forumbox.co.uk
OLD BOY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2022, 15:19   #3982
Sephiroth
Simples
 
Sephiroth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: RG41
Services: 1 Gbps; Hub 4 MM; ASUS RT-AX88U; Ultimate VOLT. BT Infinity2; Devolo 1200AV
Posts: 10,457
Sephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny star
Sephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny star
Re: Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

https://news.sky.com/story/rishi-sunak-would-add-vilification-of-uk-to-extremism-definition-if-he-becomes-prime-minister-12664848

Quote:
People who vilify the UK will be treated as extremists and could be referred to the government's Prevent programme if Rishi Sunak becomes prime minister.

In a new policy proposal to revive his flagging campaign, the Tory leadership hopeful has said he wants to widen the definition of extremism to include "those with an extreme hatred of our country".
A slippery slope indeed.

And then there's this (same link):

Quote:
Mr Sunak also announced proposals to "refocus" Prevent on to Islamic extremism, after the programme to stop terrorism was criticised for focusing too much on right-wing threats.

The former chancellor said Islamic extremism is "by far and away the single largest terror threat to the UK's national security" and accused Prevent of "failing on this front".

Mr Sunak said: "There is no more important duty for a prime minister than keeping our country and our people safe.
How about not allowing the terrorist army that is invading our shores in rubber boats that Saudi or Iran has paid for, who then abscond from their 4 star hotels and then regroup into the jihadist pot from whom we'll likely be hearing from shortly?


__________________
Seph.

My advice is at your risk.

Last edited by Sephiroth; 06-08-2022 at 15:28. Reason: typo
Sephiroth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2022, 16:47   #3983
Hugh
Hic Sunt Dracones
Cable Forum Team
 
Hugh's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Age: 65
Services: Premiere Collection
Posts: 39,730
Hugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden aura
Hugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden auraHugh has a golden aura
Re: Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

You do realise that Saudi Arabia and Iran* hate each other, don’t you?

Since the Saudis think Iran is the biggest threat to stability in the wider Middle East, I think it unlikely that they are working with them to infiltrate our country…

*Iran is mainly Shia, and the Saudis are mainly Sunni
__________________
There is always light.
If only weíre brave enough to see it.
If only weíre brave enough to be it
.
If my post is in bold and this colour, it's a Moderator Request.
Hugh is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2022, 16:53   #3984
Paul
Dr Pepper Addict
Cable Forum Team
 
Paul's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Nottingham
Services: VM Phone : Sky Mobile : Sky TV : VM BB (350 Mbps) : Talk-Talk BB (72 Mbps)
Posts: 25,576
Paul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered stars
Paul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered starsPaul is seeing silvered stars
Re: Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

Quote:
People who vilify the UK will be treated as extremists
Quote:
vilify
speak or write about in an abusively disparaging manner.
Does kinda sound a little extreme.
__________________

Baby, I was born this way.
Paul is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2022, 16:56   #3985
Sephiroth
Simples
 
Sephiroth's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: RG41
Services: 1 Gbps; Hub 4 MM; ASUS RT-AX88U; Ultimate VOLT. BT Infinity2; Devolo 1200AV
Posts: 10,457
Sephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny star
Sephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny starSephiroth has a nice shiny star
Re: Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh View Post
You do realise that Saudi Arabia and Iran* hate each other, donít you?

Since the Saudis think Iran is the biggest threat to stability in the wider Middle East, I think it unlikely that they are working with them to infiltrate our countryÖ

*Iran is mainly Shia, and the Saudis are mainly Sunni
Of course I know all that - and I never said that the two were in cahoots. But I'm willing to bet that both, particularly Saudi are orchestrating terrorism in the UK.
__________________
Seph.

My advice is at your risk.
Sephiroth is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2022, 20:30   #3986
OLD BOY
Rise above the players
 
OLD BOY's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Wokingham
Services: 2 V6 boxes with 360 software, Now, Amazon, Netflix, Starzplay, Apple+TV, Disney+, VM broadband
Posts: 13,748
OLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronze
OLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronzeOLD BOY is cast in bronze
Re: Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sephiroth View Post

Quote:
People who vilify the UK will be treated as extremists and could be referred to the government's Prevent programme if Rishi Sunak becomes prime minister.

Some people on this Forum need to watch out!
__________________
Forumbox.co.uk
OLD BOY is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2022, 20:39   #3987
Mr K
Woke and proud !
 
Mr K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Services: TV, Phone, BB, a wife
Posts: 7,982
Mr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronze
Mr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronze
Re: Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

Quote:
Originally Posted by OLD BOY View Post
Some people on this Forum need to watch out!
Oh dear sounds a bit like 1939 again. Any criticism of the State will be crushed !
Mr K is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2022, 20:46   #3988
Qtx
cf.mega poster
 
Qtx's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Probably inside the M25
Services: Sky Fibre Unlimited 40/10
Posts: 3,449
Qtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appeal
Qtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appeal
Re: Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

Sounds like they want us to be like the Americans and be all patriotic.....your either with us or against us. So don't even think of using the hashtag #BrokenBritain or the police will be on your doorstop for a hate crime :P

Have you seen the clip of Sunak in Tunbridge Wells telling the people he has been diverting funds from the poorer areas to the wealthier areas while chancellor?

What amazes me is how thick Labour are. All they need to do is put someone half likeable as their leader and they will win the next election. They just can't manage one simple thing and couldn't back in the Corbyn days either, giving the Tories it on a plate.

We needed the Tories to get in power after Blair and Brown to sort some things out but they were left in power too long.

The lib dems lost all their supporters with the coalition and where they let down their core supporters by conceding some main promises. So they are fairly dead in the water still.

So either we needs a new party to come along who could win by being the least worst option or Labour needs to find someone with charisma and without a past that will haunt them and get their arses in to action and show they are still alive.

The state of politics is diabolical.
__________________
Virgin to Sky switch=best decision ever
-----
The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist. And like that, poof. He's gone.
Qtx is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2022, 20:53   #3989
Mr K
Woke and proud !
 
Mr K's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Services: TV, Phone, BB, a wife
Posts: 7,982
Mr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronze
Mr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronzeMr K is cast in bronze
Re: Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

Quote:
Originally Posted by Qtx View Post
Sounds like they want us to be like the Americans and be all patriotic.....your either with us or against us. So don't even think of using the hashtag #BrokenBritain or the police will be on your doorstop for a hate crime :P

Have you seen the clip of Sunak in Tunbridge Wells telling the people he has been diverting funds from the poorer areas to the wealthier areas while chancellor?

What amazes me is how thick Labour are. All they need to do is put someone half likeable as their leader and they will win the next election. They just can't manage one simple thing and couldn't back in the Corbyn days either, giving the Tories it on a plate.

We needed the Tories to get in power after Blair and Brown to sort some things out but they were left in power too long.

The lib dems lost all their supporters with the coalition and where they let down their core supporters by conceding some main promises. So they are fairly dead in the water still.

So either we needs a new party to come along who could win by being the least worst option or Labour needs to find someone with charisma and without a past that will haunt them and get their arses in to action and show they are still alive.

The state of politics is diabolical.
Why do you need charisma? Just somebody competent would do, from any party would do.

We seem to be choosing leaders based on personality/tweets, rather than policies or their competences, like any other job.

All part of the dumbing down reality tv obsessed culture we've become.
Mr K is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-08-2022, 21:09   #3990
Qtx
cf.mega poster
 
Qtx's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: Probably inside the M25
Services: Sky Fibre Unlimited 40/10
Posts: 3,449
Qtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appeal
Qtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appealQtx has a bronzed appeal
Re: Updated: Boris resigns as party leader

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr K View Post
Why do you need charisma? Just somebody competent would do, from any party would do.

We seem to be choosing leaders based on personality/tweets, rather than policies or their competences, like any other job.

All part of the dumbing down reality tv obsessed culture we've become.
I'm with you on that but whether we like it or not, people will not vote for the most competent person if they have an unlikeable personality or no personality whatsoever, which is the vibe I get from Starmer. Its just how it is. So they need to do what they need to do to get the people who vote based on personality on their side and that means getting someone likeable as their leader

Media has brainwashed many in to this way of thinking. Its not really a consolation but im glad its not as bad as America where they tend to vote the same for life based on what their parents alignment was. Not much consolation when politics are as they are here
__________________
Virgin to Sky switch=best decision ever
-----
The greatest trick the Devil ever pulled was convincing the world he didn't exist. And like that, poof. He's gone.
Qtx is online now   Reply With Quote
Reply


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT +1. The time now is 16:49.


Server: curium.zmnt.uk
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2022, vBulletin Solutions Inc.