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Old 05-01-2019, 18:52   #61
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Re: Illegal migrants crossing the Channel.

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Doesn't alter the fact that if they try to reach the UK from France, they are illegal migrants and need to be returned to France.
Come a no-deal Brexit, we will no longer be party to the Dublin Agreement so wouldn't be able to do this.
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Old 05-01-2019, 19:43   #62
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Re: Illegal migrants crossing the Channel.

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Come a no-deal Brexit, we will no longer be party to the Dublin Agreement so wouldn't be able to do this.
In that case I can see the French quietly providing Dinghies.


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Re: Illegal migrants crossing the Channel.

Wonder when the boats will start going in the other direction and the French will have to defend their borders from post Brexit Brits ?
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Old 05-01-2019, 21:02   #64
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Re: Illegal migrants crossing the Channel.

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Wonder when the boats will start going in the other direction and the French will have to defend their borders from post Brexit Brits ?
Do you think that any of the Remainers on this thread might be on one of those boats?
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Re: Illegal migrants crossing the Channel.

No excuse for assault.

On the other hand, as the pro-Brexit campaign was founded on the idea of taking back control and engaging those who felt disconnected and disenfranchised by our politics, it’s probably not surprising that those who took to the streets today aren’t as au fait with the normal rules of planning a demo as the usual lefty rent-a-mob.
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Re: Illegal migrants crossing the Channel.

Pretty sure most people know that assaulting police isn’t part of the normal rules of a demo (be they lefties or righties)...
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Re: Illegal migrants crossing the Channel.

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Into what perspective? Allow them in then the perspective changes potentially to floodgate proportions.

Illegal migrants of this type must be returned to their point of departure in Europe - having rendered any necessary humanitarian assistance (other than asylum).

Into an EU wide perspective. I'm not sure I'd describe the current situation as floodgates.
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Re: Illegal migrants crossing the Channel.

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Into what perspective? Allow them in then the perspective changes potentially to floodgate proportions.

Illegal migrants of this type must be returned to their point of departure in Europe - having rendered any necessary humanitarian assistance (other than asylum).

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Into an EU wide perspective. I'm not sure I'd describe the current situation as floodgates.
I think that you know what I meant. The few now, if allowed to stay, will encourage the hordes.

The EU wide perspective is circumscribed by the Dublin Regulations. After Brexit - well, that'll be another story.

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Re: Illegal migrants crossing the Channel.

"hordes"

First, we dehumanise "them", then it doesn’t matter what happens to "them"...
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Re: Illegal migrants crossing the Channel.

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Do you think that any of the Remainers on this thread might be on one of those boats?
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Re: Illegal migrants crossing the Channel.

Most asylum seekers come in by lorry as it's safer. Sajid Javid's emphasis on boats is just to position himself as a man of action for when Theresa May steps down.

Despite the efforts of some to get to the UK, we had just 5% of the 650,000 asylum applications in 2017. By contrast, 30% were in Germany, 20% per cent in Italy and 14% in France. https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/web/as...visualisations
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Re: Illegal migrants crossing the Channel.

There will be no more posts in this thread about Brexit. One thread on the subject is enough.
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Re: Illegal migrants crossing the Channel.

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"hordes"

First, we dehumanise "them", then it doesn’t matter what happens to "them"...
Yep there was one caller to a radio phone in who when asked the question about boats carrying children to England his answer was they should be allowed to sink in the English channel.
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Re: Illegal migrants crossing the Channel.

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Yep there was one caller to a radio phone in who when asked the question about boats carrying children to England his answer was they should be allowed to sink in the English channel.
Just a symptom of the nastiness in society that seems to have taken over since 2016.
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Re: Illegal migrants crossing the Channel.

Those are just cranks that phone into radio stations, you've always had those nutters. 99%+ of people would not want or let children drown even if they support zero immigration. Anyone who does is almost certainly sick in the head.
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