Deportation of illegal migrants

[ianch99]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth

The Court of Appeal has upheld the High Court's decision not to stop the Government's intended deportation of various illegal migrants.

https://www.gbnews.uk/news/court-of-...-flight/316494

Really disappointed that you support this racist, immoral and expensive vanity project. I thought you were better than this.

BTW, your right wing trope that people crossing the channel in boat (because there is no legal route) are all economic migrants is false:

https://fullfact.org/immigration/sco...omic-migrants/

WHAT WAS CLAIMED
The vast majority of people coming across the Channel are economic migrants, they are not asylum seekers.

OUR VERDICT
There is no evidence for this. Research carried out by the Refugee Council shows the majority of nationals from the countries most represented in small boat arrivals are granted asylum. The Home Office doesn’t publish statistics covering asylum claims following small boat arrivals specifically.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Maggy

Exactly! This site was set up as a just that..not a site to moan about politics.The clue is in the title of the forum.CABLE Forum.

... and the other clue is in the section titled: CURRENT AFFIARS".

There seems some intent on causing trouble by the usual shit stirrers. Enough. Or you get topic banned. Simple.

Discussing what the point of this forum is after 19 years in existence, is utterly ridiculous.

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by ianch99

Really disappointed that you support this racist, immoral and expensive vanity project. I thought you were better than this.

BTW, your right wing trope that people crossing the channel in boat (because there is no legal route) are all economic migrants is false:

https://fullfact.org/immigration/sco...omic-migrants/

There's not a scintilla of racism in me - let's make that clear.
All those actually granted asylum are most welcome.

I object to fit young men, leaving their country, passing through many safe countries, intending to draw on our benefits system for their own benefit.

I also object to the people trafficking that allows them to leave France, something French law enforcement does little (so it appears) extinguish .

I object to us not knowing which of those illegal migrants are terrorist in nature.

I object to illegal immigrants who purposefully destroy their means of identification; their bona fides must be questionable.

My remarks are directed at the illegal migrants; the ones granted asylum are not my target.

Btw, where do they get their money from to pay the traffickers? I'll lower myself even more in your estimation - I smell the whiff of Saudi Arabia or Iran (take your choice).

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Mr K

Asylum seekers not illegal migrants. Seems that hardly any will actually go anyway due to various appeals. Going to be a very expensive plane. Still, all red meat headlines for those that like that sort of thing.

economic migrants.

Originally Posted by ianch99

Really disappointed that you support this racist, immoral and expensive vanity project. I thought you were better than this.

BTW, your right wing trope that people crossing the channel in boat (because there is no legal route) are all economic migrants is false:

https://fullfact.org/immigration/sco...omic-migrants/

I don’t agree with the Rwanda plan, on the simple terms that it is not cost effective, however, I can’t let this ridiculous assertion from you slip.

It’s not racist to protect our borders. It’s not racist to challenge people coming here illegally, yes, illegally.

And it’s certainly not racist to discourage hundreds of thousands to cross a dangerous shipping lane to get here, we also need to get the people smugglers out of business.

On the the grounds of compassion, by all means-Process their application, if they are not genuine asylum seekers, they need to be booted out, not end spending years in this country at tax payers expense, trying to travel through every loophole they can find, we have enough freeloaders in this country as it is.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Pierre

economic migrants.

Those pesky facts disagree strongly with you.
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...8&postcount=16

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Those pesky facts disagree strongly with you.
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...8&postcount=16

What is so dangerous about France that they need to escape to the UK?

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by papa smurf

What is so dangerous about France that they need to escape to the UK?

Macron.

[Julian]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

Those pesky facts disagree strongly with you.
https://www.cableforum.uk/board/show...8&postcount=16

TBF the link in that post states categorically:

The Home Office doesn’t publish statistics covering asylum claims following small boat arrivals specifically

So it is relatively meaningless.

[Pierre]

Originally Posted by Julian

So it is relatively meaningless.

correct.

OUR VERDICT
There is no evidence for this. Research carried out by the Refugee Council shows the majority of nationals from the countries most represented in small boat arrivals are granted asylum. The Home Office doesn’t publish statistics covering asylum claims following small boat arrivals specifically.

For an organisation called "fullfact" the above is an opinion in the absence of information.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by Pierre

correct.




For an organisation called "fullfact" the above is an opinion in the absence of information.

Tbf if they called themselves the lefty leaning rubbish site even the leftist wing nuts wouldn't use it.

[1andrew1]

Originally Posted by Pierre

correct.
For an organisation called "fullfact" the above is an opinion in the absence of information.

It's not based on an opinion it's based on a survey. This is the best-available evidence as the Home Office chooses not to publish its own data. FullFact could have worded it more clearly, though.

Research carried out by the Refugee Council shows the majority of nationals from the countries most represented in small boat arrivals are granted asylum.

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Originally Posted by papa smurf

Tbf if they called themselves the lefty leaning rubbish site even the leftist wing nuts wouldn't use it.

FullFact was co-founded by an Etonian, Conservative donor but never mind.

[papa smurf]

Originally Posted by 1andrew1

It's not based on an opinion it's based on a survey. This is the best-available evidence as the Home Office chooses not to publish its own data. FullFact could have worded it more clearly, though.



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FullFact was co-founded by an Etonian, Conservative donor but never mind.

Should rename it bullfact or something close to that



The way things are going i have my doubts the pilot will be on the plane

[nomadking]

Where they are unnecessarily putting themselves in danger, when they are currently in a safe situation, clearly demonstrates "WANT" rather than "NEED". At that point they can no longer claim to be seeking safety.
About time common sense was applied.