Russia has invaded Ukraine - Page 16

Pierre · 23-02-2022, 14:21

where is Ukraine's military whilst this going on? They've got a bigger army than we have

**Hugh** · 23-02-2022, 15:15

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where is Ukraine's military whilst this going on? They've got a bigger army than we have

Probably being told not to confront the Russians, as the Russians have vastly superior Air and long range Artillery and ballistic missile forces, which could stand off and destroy the Ukranian Military from a distance (just like the Allied Forces did in Iraq to Saddam's forces).

**Mick** · 23-02-2022, 17:16

BREAKING: U.S warns Ukraine government that it has intelligence that suggests Ukraine faces full on Russian invasion within next 48 hours, starting with cyber attacks on the country, several Ukrainian government websites are currently down. Source: Evening Standard.

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/worl...s-b984158.html

Jaymoss · 23-02-2022, 17:23

The Cyber attacks are 50% less powerful since Dudes not been using his Windows 98 PC hahaha

You can bet Putins Botnet is not just in Russia too

papa smurf · 23-02-2022, 17:29

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The Cyber attacks are 50% less powerful since Dudes not been using his Windows 98 PC hahaha

You can bet Putins Botnet is not just in Russia too

a few of them are in the Labour party

1andrew1 · 23-02-2022, 17:37

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a few of them are in the Labour party

Corbyn's no longer in the Labour Party.

Pierre · 23-02-2022, 19:03

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Probably being told not to confront the Russians, as the Russians have vastly superior Air and long range Artillery and ballistic missile forces, which could stand off and destroy the Ukranian Military from a distance (just like the Allied Forces did in Iraq to Saddam's forces).

Well no shots have been fired, surely the Ukrainian army should mobilise to surround the provinces Russia has moved into.

Mr K · 23-02-2022, 19:12

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Well no shots have been fired, surely the Ukrainian army should mobilise to surround the provinces Russia has moved into.

The pea shooters we've given them to defend themselves, then retreated to a safe distance should help.

**Mick** · 23-02-2022, 19:25

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Corbyn's no longer in the Labour Party.

No but some of his cronies, still are, dissing NATO. These Labour MPs, they’re an absolute disgrace.

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BREAKING: U.S imposes sanctions on company building Russia’s Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

Carth · 23-02-2022, 19:40

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BREAKING: U.S imposes sanctions on company building Russia’s Nord Stream 2 pipeline.

I thought it was completed September 2021?

**Damien** · 23-02-2022, 19:45

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No but some of his cronies, still are, dissing NATO. These Labour MPs, they’re an absolute disgrace.

Yup and Corbyn too is still blaming the West for Russian Agression even if he has been kicked out.

Thankfully all the ones that are dissing NATO are not in any position other than being an MP. Starmer has done a complete 180 on the position of Labour that at the moment Labour are call for tougher action than the Government is.

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Well no shots have been fired, surely the Ukrainian army should mobilise to surround the provinces Russia has moved into.

I think Russia are still in the 'separatist' regions. The problem will start if they move further into Ukraine. I imagine the Ukrainians are holding back to the edge of those lines in the hope Russia chicken out.

1andrew1 · 23-02-2022, 20:37

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Yup and Corbyn too is still blaming the West for Russian Agression even if he has been kicked out.

Thankfully all the ones that are dissing NATO are not in any position other than being an MP. Starmer has done a complete 180 on the position of Labour that at the moment Labour are call for tougher action than the Government is..

All those MPs who took Russian money should pay it back and those MPs who support Putin should be deselected at the next election.

**Hugh** · 23-02-2022, 21:07

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Well no shots have been fired, surely the Ukrainian army should mobilise to surround the provinces Russia has moved into.

Do that en-masse, and they’ll be seen by satellite/airborne drones, and before the Russian ground troops move forward (beyond where the existing "militia" are), the Ukrainian forces will be hit by artillery, short range ballistic misfiles, and ground attack aircraft…

The best way to blunt/slow down the Russians moving forward is with small stealthy mobile teams (platoon size) armed with anti-tank and anti-aircraft weaponry, utilising asymmetric warfare - any large groupings would be pulverised from a distance; it will be more of a Vietnam conflict than a Korean War, imho.

**Paul** · 23-02-2022, 21:21

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I wonder how he would have reacted to the invasion if he were still President?

I dont think there would be an invasion.
I'm pretty sure its no coincidence he waited until Trump got dumped and replaced by the damp squib they have now

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it will be more of a Vietnam conflict than a Korean War, imho.

It might bite Russia more than they think, and become like another Afghanistan.

**Mick** · 23-02-2022, 21:34

Ukraine LATEST: Leaders of Separatist regions ask President Putin for help against Ukrainian army “aggression”, according to Russian news agency, Interfax.