11-04-2020, 23:52
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: Coronavirus: PM Boris Johnson Now out of Intensive Care
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
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Not a fan of PP, but we’ve all fumbled/mumbled - she’s done much worse to be pilloried for...
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12-04-2020, 07:25
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Re: Coronavirus
Looks like immunity is off the table. What does this mean for a vaccine?
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/he...27177c51a3828a
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12-04-2020, 08:10
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by pip08456
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As a synopsis in my own words, it seems that people who have died from the coronavirus have a severely depleted immune system. As part of the investigation into this, scientists have shown how the Coronavirus can drill into a T-cell and disable its function.
That leaves (again in my own words) the conundrum that those who recover do show antibodies which means that their immune system is not depleted.
Anyway, that's my understanding of a very good spot, Pip.
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12-04-2020, 08:25
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Re: Coronavirus
It explains why it’s particularly deadly for those with compromised immune systems and other health conditions.
I don’t think it rules out (or in) immunity for those who have recovered but it’ll make a vaccination for those who need it most more challenging.
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12-04-2020, 09:02
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Re: Coronavirus
This story expands on the one above, main takeaway - “We just don’t know yet”
https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soci...ing-protective
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12-04-2020, 09:26
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by jfman
It explains why it’s particularly deadly for those with compromised immune systems and other health conditions.
I don’t think it rules out (or in) immunity for those who have recovered but it’ll make a vaccination for those who need it most more challenging.
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Given a vaccine is unlikely until next year at the very earliest the self isolation period for those with compromised immune systems and other health conditions is likely to be much longer then the officially announced 12 weeks.
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12-04-2020, 09:58
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Re: Coronavirus
That is just one experiment so it would be wise to take it with a heavy pinch of salt. There have been too many cases of newspapers running amok on the basis of a single study in normal times let alone now.
In the last month as Cronovirus cases have soared the death rate was remained relatively static and cases of reported reinfection small so the more scary predictions of humans being unable to develop immunity or this being deadlier than assumed are just seemingly less and less likely.
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12-04-2020, 10:30
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Re: Coronavirus
Too much could,might be,possibly,it is thought.
How about a plain we don't know..YET! As soon as we do we will inform you.
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12-04-2020, 11:20
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Maggy
Too much could,might be,possibly,it is thought.
How about a plain we don't know..YET! As soon as we do we will inform you.
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That sounds far too honest and straightforward. No politician would dare.
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12-04-2020, 11:26
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laeva recumbens anguis
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Re: Coronavirus
tbf, that’s what they are saying - we don’t know enough to say when things will happen, it’s too early in the spread yet.
It’s the press focusing on one point of an article to get clicks
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12-04-2020, 11:39
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Re: Coronavirus
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Originally Posted by Hugh
tbf, that’s what they are saying - we don’t know enough to say when things will happen, it’s too early in the spread yet.
It’s the press focusing on one point of an article to get clicks
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My comment was addressed to the media in general.
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That sounds far too honest and straightforward. No politician would dare.
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That's because they daren't appear uninformed when in effect they are uninformed. Too many previous teaching colleagues had this attitude..I always respected the 'I don't know but let's work it out together approach' myself.
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12-04-2020, 12:49
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Re: Coronavirus
Aye is his life with an extra couple of quid per hour per member of staff in NHS funding? Probably not.
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12-04-2020, 13:12
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Re: Coronavirus
This writer's assessment of the West's reaction makes sense to me.
1. Temporary lock down to build up healthcare capacity.
2. Reopen with selective exclusion building up herd immunity aided by vaccination if and when it emerges.
https://twitter.com/mrianleslie/stat...532224/photo/1
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12-04-2020, 13:20
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Re: Coronavirus
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Nurses should refuse to treat coronavirus patients "as a last resort" if they are not given adequate personal protective equipment (PPE), according to new guidance.
The Royal College of Nursing (RCN) issued the advice to its members in a bid to prevent more frontline deaths, following criticism of the government about the supply of protective gear for NHS staff caring for people with COVID-19.
Ministers have been accused of being too slow to deliver the equipment, putting health workers at risk and meaning those treating coronavirus patients could pass it on.
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https://www.google.com/amp/s/news.sk...-says-11972124
Sad that has come to this and it could have major implications. Medical staff have been put in an impossible position, treat somebody without the right protection and risk themselves, their families and other patients. Don't treat and watch patients suffer/deteriorate. Not a choice I'd like to have to take, and it's a disgrace we're putting nurses in that position.
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