Coronavirus - Page 36

1andrew1 · 13-12-2021, 14:28

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What's concerning about the future levels?

We should find out tonight in Johnson's announcement.

mrmistoffelees · 13-12-2021, 14:53

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

We should find out tonight in Johnson's announcement.

Boris is gracing us with his presence again ?

Sephiroth · 13-12-2021, 15:22

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Boris is gracing us with his presence again ?

It's Starmer's reply tonight.

mrmistoffelees · 13-12-2021, 15:24

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

It's Starmer's reply tonight.

I know, I was querying the ‘Johnson’s announcement’ comment

1andrew1 · 13-12-2021, 15:46

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I know, I was querying the ‘Johnson’s announcement’ comment

Sorry, a colleague misinformed me, it's Javid not Johnson.

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Originally Posted by mrmistoffelees

Boris is gracing us with his presence again ?

He's probably up in Shropshire North galvanising his ground troops.

Pierre · 13-12-2021, 15:47

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

It's Starmer's reply tonight.

Oh you mean "If Labour was in power we'd do everything the Tories have done, only faster and harder. The Tories are not being authoritarian enough. We need to be fining and imprisoning the unvaccinated (even if it is a tiny %)"

I think that's what he'd say.

Oh and "none of us broke any COVID rules ever...at all. Only Tories do that."

1andrew1 · 13-12-2021, 16:04

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Oh you mean "If Labour was in power we'd do everything the Tories have done, only faster and harder. The Tories are not being authoritarian enough. We need to be fining and imprisoning the unvaccinated (even if it is a tiny %)"

I think that's what he'd say.

Oh and "none of us broke any COVID rules ever...at all. Only Tories do that."

I only wish Johnson's loyalty to you was half as strong as your loyalty is to him. He's thrown us all under the bus with one set of rules for him and his chums and another for the rest of us.

papa smurf · 13-12-2021, 16:07

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Originally Posted by Sephiroth

It's Starmer's reply tonight.

It's all the same party now that starmer votes for every thing Boris puts forward.

nffc · 13-12-2021, 16:18

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Well, they think there is a vaccine escape right? It seems early data says the booster provides 70-75% protection against asymptomatic infection which is impressively high considering it's developed against an earlier strain and even then they think the booster or the standard two jabs provide more protection against hospitalisation and death.

So encouraging so far but need to roll out that booster faster.

But as I understand it's all early numbers and the case rates are looking at getting so high that if we're wrong about that then problems could happen. If come early January those fears are misplaced then lift the restrictions again.

They can't roll out the booster faster when people can't get them.

I'm already booked in, but it's not for a couple of weeks, and perhaps want it sooner. I don't really want to cancel the appointment I have and risk having to wait even longer.

The NHS site hasn't been updated yet. There are 3 walk in sites in Notts presently, 2 are in Mansfield, which I haven't looked at, and 1 is in Nottm and says it's not doing boosters. At present that says it closes some days at 3.30, which isn't really sensible for anyone who has a full time job. A city of this size needs about 5-6 walk in centres open something like 7am-10pm independently of those with booked in appointments. It would be good to see this capacity increased but this presumably needs sites and staff to do it.

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Hoyle is teed off with ABdPJ for announcing on TV ahead of Parliament again...

Pierre · 13-12-2021, 16:22

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Originally Posted by 1andrew1

I only wish Johnson's loyalty to you was half as strong as your loyalty is to him. He's thrown us all under the bus with one set of rules for him and his chums and another for the rest of us.

I'm not loyal to anyone. My criticism of the government's handling of COVID, I thought, has been pretty clear.

My point in that post and in other previous posts is that when it comes to COVID we are in a one party state as Starmer offers nothing, other than to reinforce Tory decision making. In fact it is Starmers loyalty to Johnson you should be questioning.

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I'm already booked in, but it's not for a couple of weeks, and perhaps want it sooner. I don't really want to cancel the appointment I have and risk having to wait even longer.

I booked today, and could have got it tomorrow if I wanted. Booked in for Friday.

nffc · 13-12-2021, 16:29

Javid is coming across absolutely clueless here.

Has he tried to do this today?

I understand they're trying to increase capacity, but isn't that just holding back the demand?

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I booked today, and could have got it tomorrow if I wanted. Booked in for Friday.

I'd rather have it this week than next. As it stands i'd be boosted this year...

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The guy sat behind Javid is screwing around on his phone, still a fair few aren't wearing masks...

**Mick** · 13-12-2021, 17:47

BREAKING: Prime Minister Boris Johnson loses his working majority as 79 Tory MPs have declared they’re rebelling by voting against Covid Passports tomorrow.

https://order-order.com/2021/12/13/n...ents-majority/

Pierre · 13-12-2021, 17:57

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BREAKING: Prime Minister Boris Johnson loses his working majority as 79 Tory MPs have declared they’re rebelling by voting against Covid Passports tomorrow.

https://order-order.com/2021/12/13/n...ents-majority/

Great, as I have said before, the Tory Party is the party of Government and also the party of Opposition.

Labour will vote with the government to get this through.

It's ridiculous and a total Labour own goal. They have a chance to win a vote in Parliament against Johnson and instead they'll side with him.

mrmistoffelees · 13-12-2021, 18:02

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Originally Posted by Pierre

Great, as I have said before, the Tory Party is the party of Government and also the party of Opposition.

Labour will vote with the government to get this through.

It's ridiculous and a total Labour own goal. They have a chance to win a vote in Parliament against Johnson and instead they'll side with him.

I’m confused, I thought the point of opposition was to hold the government accountable BUT to vote with them if they agreed. not just wholly disagree with the elected government on every issue ?

**Chris** · 13-12-2021, 18:07

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I’m confused, I thought the point of opposition was to hold the government accountable BUT to vote with them if they agreed. not just wholly disagree with the elected government on every issue ?

In the past, J R-M has said that the true division in the Commons is between those with executive responsibility and those without.