VOD : Linear is old tech - on demand is the future

[jfman]

In fairness it's his personal opinion he's not applying it to everyone else. I own about three DVD box sets.

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by denphone

Plenty in our household.

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Tell that to the Star Trek , Star Wars , LOTR'S , Harry Potter , Marvel , Game of Thrones , HBO , BBC , etc . etc , etc fans....

Den, I couldn't give two ****s about what others want to do with their hard earned cash, but, as i said already, it's just not for me, I see no point in watching something that I have already watched.

[denphone]

Originally Posted by jfman

In fairness it's his personal opinion he's not applying it to everyone else. I own about three DVD box sets.

And l respect his opinion but as we know we all share differing opinions as is very clear.

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Originally Posted by Mad Max

Den, I couldn't give two ****s about what others want to do with their hard earned cash, but, as i said already, it's just not for me, I see no point in watching something that I have already watched.

That is your prerogative MM.

[jfman]

It's really money for old rope. Digitally remastered VHS, DVD, Blu-ray, 4K versions and every time there's a technology change you can milk the same cash cows dry.

There's no magic money tree, but that's pretty close.

[Mad Max]

Originally Posted by jfman

It's really money for old rope. Digitally remastered VHS, DVD, Blu-ray, 4K versions and every time there's a technology change you can milk the same cash cows dry.

There's no magic money tree, but that's pretty close.

Totally agree with that.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

More conjecture with no evidence whatsoever.

It really is becoming tiresome. I can even see you resorted to throwing up a straw man in there by speculating on whether I think Netflix or Amazon should exist at all! You also make curious use of the word “obviously” and place an easily disputable point after it.

I was only applying your stated economic theory, which I would say is dead in the water!

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

Do you ever research anything before posting ?

Designated Survivor was a show originally shown on ABC (linear TV) Seasons 1&2 , Netflix with Entertainment One took over from Season 3 and also has access to the first two seasons.

Last time I looked, we didn't have the ABC channel. Maybe you use nefarious methods to access your content!

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Originally Posted by oliver1948uk

1. Even OB admits his wife cannot cope with getting onto streaming services (different boxes; changing inputs etc) and I am sure there are millions more who just want to turn on the TV, press a couple of buttons and watch. If all the linear channels go and the ability to simply record and play back on boxes like the V6, how will all those people cope?
2. I accept we must constantly have new programmes produced but the idea that most people only watch newly produced content is ridiculous. Surely a great many channels ONLY show previously viewed content and several are very popular. Dare I say that much of the content on Netflix has been previously shown on linear channels. Having enjoyed series 5 of Line of Duty on BBC, I then watched series 1 to 4 on Netflix, though why BBC programmes are on Netflix and not iPlayer is a mystery to me.

Yes, I have mentioned my wife not feeling comfortable with accessing the streaming services. This really relates more to Hayu and Prime (and Now TV via my Roku).

This is why I have kept bleating on about having access to these services through the V6 box!!!

Do you get what I am saying now?

As for viewing repeated content, I know that some people like to watch what they have seen before time and time again. Sounds like a recipe for brain death to me, but each to his/her own.

If you want to see loads of content shown before, it seems to me that Britbox will be right up your street!

Incidentally, your comment about the ability to record to watch later sounds a bit strange. You do realise that with streaming services, you cut out the need to record, don't you? Just find your programme and click!

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Originally Posted by oliver1948uk

Not everyone is able for various reasons to watch things first time round. Some things are certainly like to enjoy a second time. Why is there a market for DVD boxsets?

Streaming services have both new and archive material.

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Originally Posted by Chris

This is O.B.’s M.O. ... surely you noticed before now?

You can add to that the other main strand of the arguments presented in this thread and other similar ones, basically “it’s what I like so obviously it’s what everyone else should like”. OB is always right. Experience is everything, remember.

It's just how I see it panning out. Nothing to do with what I want, just what I can see happening before my very eyes.

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Originally Posted by jfman

More conjecture with no evidence whatsoever.

It really is becoming tiresome. I can even see you resorted to throwing up a straw man in there by speculating on whether I think Netflix or Amazon should exist at all! You also make curious use of the word “obviously” and place an easily disputable point after it.

That's amazing, coming from you! Where's your evidence? If Netfix or Amazon employed you as their economics advisor, they would both have been sunk without trace by now!

[jfman]

In fairness it’s not my economic theory, hundreds of years of capitalism has developed to support it. However, you haven’t proven it to be wrong. Grateful if you could clarify where exactly you did this?

Again, you have claimed I hold an opinion I don’t have as a straw man. How I’d advise amazon or Netflix based on reality isn’t the same as describing perfectly competitive markets.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

In fairness it’s not my economic theory, hundreds of years of capitalism has developed to support it. However, you haven’t proven it to be wrong. Grateful if you could clarify where exactly you did this?

I think the very existence of Netflix and Amazon proves you wrong! But please don't ask me to explain that. As you say, this is becoming really tiresome!

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

I think the very existence of Netflix and Amazon proves you wrong! But please don't ask me to explain that. As you say, this is becoming really tiresome!

Where did I say the pay-tv market has economic conditions that precludes the existence of Netflix/Amazon or anyone else?

You are making a fool of yourself now, Old Boy.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

Where did I say the pay-tv market has economic conditions that precludes the existence of Netflix/Amazon or anyone else?

You are making a fool of yourself now, Old Boy.

Not at all! Your distopian view of the future of Netflix says it all.

Netflix will survive for decades to come, despite your nefarious grasp of economics. So will Prime.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Not at all! Your distopian view of the future of Netflix says it all.

Netflix will survive for decades to come, despite your nefarious grasp of economics. So will Prime.

Nefarious grasp of economics? Evidence that statement please.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

Nefarious grasp of economics? Evidence that statement please.

Netflix exists.

[jfman]

Originally Posted by OLD BOY

Netflix exists.

At no point did I claim it could not exist. Please provide evidence.

More straw men.

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by jfman

At no point did I claim it could not exist. Please provide evidence.

More straw men.

According to you, Netflix's economic model is unsustainable.

Revise your previous posts!

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Originally Posted by muppetman11

Perhaps someone needs to ask the BBC Director General Tony Hall why he's signed off on a deal to purchase UKTV or ask Comcast why they've bought Sky. Perhaps they should have spoke to you first OB.

Oh OB your comments gets funnier by the day.

I'm not really sure why you find those two comments/questions pertinent.

Still, let me try to answer this. First, the deal to purchase UKTV, I presume, is so that the Beeb can close these channels and transfer the content to Britbox.

Secondly, Comcast buying Sky makes perfect sense, but don't assume that means the Sky scheduled channels will survive for the long term. Sky will become an IPTV service over time and the satellite linear channels as we know them today will disappear.

But we both know that according to your posts, nothing will change and the tide will never come in.

Good luck with that theory.

[jfman]

Please provide clear economic analysis instead of conjecture. It would save me time separating the two.