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Old 01-03-2018, 16:40   #4156
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So Sky is planning to catch up with Virgin by adding integrated Netflix. Virgin have had that for quite some time. OK, they're going to be offering bundle prices, Which VM don't do. That can only be judged advantage/disadvantage wise when the bundle prices are known.
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Old 01-03-2018, 17:00   #4157
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What will VM have to offer to counter it? Same,old, same old unless they also embrace it.
They will embrace it, too, pip. After all, the number of traditional channels will start the big decline in a few years.

VM have been one of the leaders in this thinking but tend to make slow progress, and Sky have now caught up. So Virgin need to get tons more apps, including Amazon, double quick to avoid getting left behind.

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So Sky is planning to catch up with Virgin by adding integrated Netflix. Virgin have had that for quite some time. OK, they're going to be offering bundle prices, Which VM don't do. That can only be judged advantage/disadvantage wise when the bundle prices are known.
I wouldn't be surprised if Sky, Virgin Media and BT all offered bundles including streaming services from Netflix, Amazon and other subscription streaming services in time, PB. It makes perfect sense.
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Sky have now caught up
No they haven't. According to the press release, Netflix will launch on Sky "in the coming year". Meanwhile VM have 3 million Netflix-enabled customers right now.
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Old 01-03-2018, 18:16   #4159
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The potential demise of Virgin Media has been greatly exaggerated...
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Old 01-03-2018, 19:11   #4160
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No they haven't. According to the press release, Netflix will launch on Sky "in the coming year". Meanwhile VM have 3 million Netflix-enabled customers right now.
Well, true, let's say they are almost there. It doesn't take away from the point that they need to get Amazon to keep ahead of the game.
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Well, true, let's say they are almost there. It doesn't take away from the point that they need to get Amazon to keep ahead of the game.
They will get what they believe is right for the future for Virgin Media.
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They will get what they believe is right for the future for Virgin Media.
Let's hope they do, those of us with an interest in seeing VM survive into the coming decades.
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Let's hope they do, those of us with an interest in seeing VM survive into the coming decades.
Any reason why they won't survive?.
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Any reason why they won't survive?.
If they do not keep up, they will not survive. I am not staying with them if they fall behind, and nor will many others just stay put regardless of developments elsewhere.

I've already ditched my Sky Cinema channels with Virgin because I watch films on demand, and many from Sky are only in SD. I use Now TV for that now, and their 720p HD is better.

A big share of my regular viewing is now with Netflix, Amazon and Now TV. If Sky gets Amazon and Virgin doesn't, that will be it for me, I think. It wouldn't take a lot for me to move to Sky now, and yet just a couple of years ago, nothing would have been further from my mind.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Virgin will get Amazon, much more UHD content and more Virgin exclusives this year, which will definitely keep me as a VM subscriber, at least for the time being.

I am sure I'm not alone in saying this.
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Old 01-03-2018, 20:37   #4165
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The potential demise of Virgin Media has been greatly exaggerated...
Agreed. Anyone would have thought that VM hadn't got Netflix yet.
That being said, Netflix was the key TV offering that VM had that Sky didn't apart from some adhoc on-demand content.
Sky is remedying this but I've heard of no plans for VM to get Atlantic, unlike BT which will have it next year via Now TV. Maybe something is possible with Amazon Prime if Amazon is willing to forgo its linear channels or maybe VM will be acquired by Comcast if it doesn't win Sky.
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Old 01-03-2018, 20:50   #4166
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Agreed. Anyone would have thought that VM hadn't got Netflix yet.
That being said, Netflix was the key TV offering that VM had that Sky didn't apart from some adhoc on-demand content.
Sky is remedying this but I've heard of no plans for VM to get Atlantic, unlike BT which will have it next year via Now TV. Maybe something is possible with Amazon Prime if Amazon is willing to forgo its linear channels or maybe VM will be acquired by Comcast if it doesn't win Sky.
Amazon doesn't have to forgo its linear channels if only Full House subscribers are permitted access to the video apps.
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Amazon doesn't have to forgo its linear channels if only Full House subscribers are permitted access to the video apps.
But that means that some Prime customers can access the app and some can't which reduces the benefits of having the app as the development costs will be spread across fewer users.
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If they do not keep up, they will not survive. I am not staying with them if they fall behind, and nor will many others just stay put regardless of developments elsewhere.

I've already ditched my Sky Cinema channels with Virgin because I watch films on demand, and many from Sky are only in SD. I use Now TV for that now, and their 720p HD is better.

A big share of my regular viewing is now with Netflix, Amazon and Now TV. If Sky gets Amazon and Virgin doesn't, that will be it for me, I think. It wouldn't take a lot for me to move to Sky now, and yet just a couple of years ago, nothing would have been further from my mind.

I'm keeping my fingers crossed that Virgin will get Amazon, much more UHD content and more Virgin exclusives this year, which will definitely keep me as a VM subscriber, at least for the time being.

I am sure I'm not alone in saying this.
When you say get Amazon, do you mean as an app, I have VM but also a fire stick for Amazon?
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Now Amazon have added channels to the Prime app, albeit with an added subscription, i can't see VM having it.

Unless Amazon agreed to remove their channels to get on the box but i can't see that TBH.
I agree any Amazon app appearing on VM would need to be watered down, in my opinion just Prime Video would work for VM.

Seeing as VM have only just launched VM store then it would be silly to add direct competition onto the same box. You could say buying a movie or show through Amazon is a better option if it's the same price as it can be viewed on multiple devices
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I agree any Amazon app appearing on VM would need to be watered down, in my opinion just Prime Video would work for VM.

Seeing as VM have only just launched VM store then it would be silly to add direct competition onto the same box. You could say buying a movie or show through Amazon is a better option if it's the same price as it can be viewed on multiple devices
..as can material bought on the VM Store, up to 5 devices.
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