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Old 12-11-2021, 10:35   #8071
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I have not claimed that regular boosters won’t be required. I said they may not be required. Twisting everything I say, as usual.

There are two schools of thought. One is that the virus will be circulating for a while yet, but following the two jabs and booster, the population may continue to be protected as the virus circulates and keeps our immune systems topped up, thus giving us protection without the need to give any further vaccines to the healthy population.

The other is that this will not be sufficient and that vaccinations may be needed well into the future.

These possibilities are both based on what the scientists are saying and I am not saying which is correct because at this stage, nobody really knows.
There are not two schools of thought.

There’s evidence led science that shows immunity from both vaccination and infection wanes over time. There’s also speculation, without evidence, to the contrary.

To give both equal weight exemplifies the problem you’ve encountered in this debate throughout that something you read on the internet or heard on the radio must be credible. This is not the case.
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Old 12-11-2021, 10:45   #8072
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There are not two schools of thought.

There’s evidence led science that shows immunity from both vaccination and infection wanes over time. There’s also speculation, without evidence, to the contrary.

To give both equal weight exemplifies the problem you’ve encountered in this debate throughout that something you read on the internet or heard on the radio must be credible. This is not the case.
It's a basic media literacy issue - giving equal weight to two opposing opinions in the supposed interests of balance, without doing any research on the robustness or otherwise of the sources behind those opinions.
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Old 12-11-2021, 11:59   #8073
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It's a basic media literacy issue - giving equal weight to two opposing opinions in the supposed interests of balance, without doing any research on the robustness or otherwise of the sources behind those opinions.
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Re: Africa has the lowest caseload in the world

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Seriously?Look at who is posting.
Well I did click that link with some trepidation, but it turned out to be a video by the excellent Dr John Campbell, so I thought it warranted a response.

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WHO Estimates Africa’s COVID-19 Caseload is Seven Times Higher Than Official Count
A valid point, but massive underreporting isn't exclusive to Africa. As it happens, DJC also covered that a few days ago.
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Re: Coronavirus

I don't know whether or not you classify tissue salts as homeopathy ot herbal medicine, but the Schuessler J combination absolutely controls my colds and combination H controls my hay fever.
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I don't know whether or not you classify tissue salts as homeopathy ot herbal medicine, but the Schuessler J combination absolutely controls my colds and combination H controls my hay fever.
Homeopathic medicine.

https://www.healthline.com/health/ti...out-homeopathy
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Both my parents now have had a positive PCR test, both been double vaccinated with a booster! They're suffering cold like symptoms with a bad head, hopefully it won't get worse.
Best of luck to them

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If you have an issue with what you think are off topic discussions, feel free to report it, and it will be considered by the Mods & Admins - it’s not your role in this forum to decide what is or isn’t off topic.


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It's a basic media literacy issue - giving equal weight to two opposing opinions in the supposed interests of balance, without doing any research on the robustness or otherwise of the sources behind those opinions.
Yes usually with an expert on one side and a berk of the street on the other but in the interests of balance both have to be heard
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Africa is estimated to have seven times more COVID-19 cases and three times as many deaths as officially reported, according to the World Health Organization (WHO) Africa region.

This means that the continent could have around 59 million cases and 634,500 deaths.

We’re using a model to estimate the degree of under-estimation
So basically they think "It surely cant be that low, so lets take a guess", and we all know how good "models" are.

Africa (and many places) may be under reporting, but the WHO has no actual evidence to say its 7 times.
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So basically they think "It surely cant be that low, so lets take a guess", and we all know how good "models" are.

Africa (and many places) may be under reporting, but the WHO has no actual evidence to say its 7 times.
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Bearing in mind that Africa is hot, most people live outdoors or have well ventilated homes/offices and there's very little public transport. The opportunities for the virus to spread may well be limited.
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The missus got her booster appointment. The other side of the city, no parking anywhere, and 3 buses to get with a few hundred yards, and right in the middle of the rush hour.

Our daughter spent 37 minutes on hold until she tried to get the venue moved to Tesco, 200 yards from us.

"Tesco is fully booked. They and the independent pharmacies want all their slots filled every day to make ends meet" (i.e. make the most profit).

The guy on the phone offered her another place, 15 miles away in the early evening! The 2 other places she has been to are not offering the jab she is scheduled to have.

He has now passed her case to a supervisor, but is doubtful the venue can be changed.
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The missus got her booster appointment.
Why not just book your [her] own ?
We all use the NHS site to book ours.
You can change or cancel on their system as well.
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