UPDATED: British Prosecutors: 2 Russian Nationals Identified as Novichok Suspects.

[Gavin78]

Perhaps we've been a little too forward with Russia?

[denphone]

Originally Posted by Gavin78

Perhaps we've been a little too forward perhaps with Russia?

l always like to see everything come out in the wash before forming a firm conclusion about things.

[Gavin78]

Well I suppose we have known for weeks that they weren't able to say who did it? other than what the poison was. However there must have been enough evidence to present to the nations that have expelled Russian diplomats for them to do it?

It will be interesting to see what happens over the next week or 2

[OLD BOY]

Originally Posted by denphone

l always like to see everything come out in the wash before forming a firm conclusion about things.

Best not to form a view at this point in time then, Den. They say they have not 'yet' established where it came from. They are talking about incontrovertial evidence.

I don't think there is much doubt though, do you?

Of course, Russia is jumping on this news. But it does not in any way put them in the clear. We’ve obviously shared some other intelligence that Porton Down is not privy to, with our allies.

The public is not going to get all the information on this for a very long time if ever and the porton statement could simply mean they don't know which facility it was manufactured at or stored at and certainly doesn't mean Russia are clear of any involvement in this incident.

[Carth]

Originally Posted by RizzyKing

. . and certainly doesn't mean Russia are clear of any involvement in this incident.

. . or a few more Countries if using that argument

Porton Down did it's job to identify what the substance was.

It's the intelligence services job to identify where it came from and they obviously have intel to say what, which we will never see.

I see Jeremy Corbyn is jumping on the Russia defense bandwagon, anything for him to deflect the racisim/Anti-Jewish sentiment going on in the Labour Party.

BREAKING: Russia’s proposals at OPCW DEFEATED.

The international community has once again stood with Britain in the face of Russian attempts to obscure the truth of the Skripal case.

At today’s special session of the Executive Council in The Hague called by Russia, Russia proposed a joint UK-Russia inquiry into the attempted murder in Salisbury. Russia demanded this session before the OPCW has completed its technical assistance to the UK. Russia’s proposal for a joint investigation was robustly defeated, receiving only six votes from the 41-strong Executive Council. Russia is continuing its diversionary tactics by asking now for an emergency session of the UN Security Council tomorrow, again without waiting for the OPCW to do its work.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/f...posals-at-opcw

[Mr K]

Originally Posted by Mick

Porton Down did it's job to identify what the substance was.

It's the intelligence services job to identify where it came from and they obviously have intel to say what, which we will never see.

I see Jeremy Corbyn is jumping on the Russia defense bandwagon, anything for him to deflect the racisim/Anti-Jewish sentiment going on in the Labour Party.

That's the problem with scientists they just tell it how it is with no regard to the political and media narrative.

P.S it's 'Defence' Mick, you've been reading too many US sites

Originally Posted by Mr K

That's the problem with scientists they just tell it how it is with no regard to the political and media narrative.

P.S it's 'Defence' Mick, you've been reading too many US sites

Try not to be a Richard, there’s a good fellow...

No Carth novichok is an all Russian creation and apart from small samples held by other facilities for work on a vaccine only Russia has significant stocks of it. Even if it were a commonplace agent only one country has a reason to have used it in the way it was but i suppose if you want you can go with the "Russia didn't do it" approach im sure that attitude will deliver the truth.

[Carth]

Doesn't matter who has 'stocks' of it, quite a few countries have the means to produce it.

I'd guess the amount used in the attack doesn't come anywhere near needing a 'stockpile' of the stuff either.

I'm not saying Russia didn't do it, and I'm not saying they did. Until I hear of clear and irrefutable proof I'll keep an open mind thanks

There's a reason we no longer have the death penalty here, something to do with circumstantial evidence and motive proving an innocent as guilty . . with no way back.

BREAKING: Russia warns U.K. tonight at the Emergency UN Security Council meeting it asked to convene that ‘they are playing with fire’ and ‘they will be sorry.’

Blah blah blah. Hardly making themselves seem innocent.