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10-01-2022, 19:09
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Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
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Ha ha! You find this trivia serious?
Well, if this is the most serious issue you think this world faces, you really need to get a grip, Andrew.
These were work colleagues who were together because the government can’t just stop functioning. If they met for drinks afterwards, where is the harm?  |
Ask the people who made it illegal for others to do.
This was around the same time Neil Ferguson had to resigned for breaking the rules: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-52553229
And he was only an advisor! Obviously different rules apply for the pleps than the Prime Minster though.
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10-01-2022, 19:13
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Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Ha ha! You find this trivia serious?
Well, if this is the most serious issue you think this world faces, you really need to get a grip, Andrew.
These were work colleagues who were together because the government can’t just stop functioning. If they met for drinks afterwards, where is the harm? |
Come on, OB. You and I are pretty much aligned on most things but on this, you must be aware of the public services propriety mantra:
Not only must it be so, but seen to be so (aka the Clapham Omnibus).
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10-01-2022, 19:38
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Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Ha ha! You find this trivia serious?
Well, if this is the most serious issue you think this world faces, you really need to get a grip, Andrew.
These were work colleagues who were together because the government can’t just stop functioning. If they met for drinks afterwards, where is the harm? |
It is serious for a UK Prime Minister to behave in such a manner. And I've not stated it is the most serious issue the world faces in my post.
Johnson banned everyone from meeting more than one other person outdoors and then attended a party himself for 40 people. The kind of party we would all have loved to have attended but instead we followed the rules.
It's a breach of trust between the public and government. Your fellow Berkshire resident gets it. I advise you to reflect on our words and reconsider your instinct to support everything that Johnson does.
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10-01-2022, 19:44
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Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Ha ha! You find this trivia serious?
Well, if this is the most serious issue you think this world faces, you really need to get a grip, Andrew.
These were work colleagues who were together because the government can’t just stop functioning. If they met for drinks afterwards, where is the harm? |
Tell that to people that got prosecuted for similar gatherings.
'Bring you own booze' doesn't sound like any work meeting I've been to, mores the pity....
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10-01-2022, 20:24
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Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
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Tell that to people that got prosecuted for similar gatherings.
'Bring you own booze' doesn't sound like any work meeting I've been to, mores the pity....
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It sounds like a piss up to me.
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10-01-2022, 20:38
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Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
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Originally Posted by Mr K
Tell that to people that got prosecuted for similar gatherings.
'Bring you own booze' doesn't sound like any work meeting I've been to, mores the pity....
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And knowing how tight Bozza is and how he likes to get others to pay for anthing he can, the bring your own booze line sounds right up his street.
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10-01-2022, 20:49
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Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
Tick, tock BoJo.
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10-01-2022, 21:09
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Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
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And knowing how tight Bozza is and how he likes to get others to pay for anthing he can, the bring your own booze line sounds right up his street.
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10-01-2022, 21:51
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Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
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Originally Posted by OLD BOY
Ha ha! You find this trivia serious?
Well, if this is the most serious issue you think this world faces, you really need to get a grip, Andrew.
These were work colleagues who were together because the government can’t just stop functioning. If they met for drinks afterwards, where is the harm? |
You’re sounding a bit muffled…
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If they met for drinks afterwards, where is the harm?
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Well, according to the Met Police on the same day
https://twitter.com/metpoliceuk/stat...961442304?s=21
And according to the (then) Culture Secretary earlier that day, when he gave the Downing Street coronavirus briefing - he told us all: "You can meet one person outside of your household in an outdoor, public place provided that you stay two metres apart."
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10-01-2022, 22:31
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Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
I reckon most people don’t give a shit.
The twitterati and other Social Media platforms will no doubt melt down,
But, I think most normal people (although not being happy about it or condoning it and being a pissed off about it) want to move on, open up society and move on with life.
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This was around the same time Neil Ferguson had to resigned for breaking the rules.
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Yes and he no longer had any influence on policy, he disappeared into obscurity and no one paid any attention to him ever again.
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Tell that to people that got prosecuted for similar gatherings.
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Anyone prosecuted for illegal gatherings should be exonerated and be reimbursed for any fines.
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10-01-2022, 22:44
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Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
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Anyone prosecuted for illegal gatherings should be exonerated and be reimbursed for any fines.
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Two wrongs don’t make a right. But anyone who was lockdown-busting at no. 10 should receive the same treatment as everyone else.
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10-01-2022, 23:13
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Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
Looks like Downing Street is throwing Martin Reynolds under the bus in an attempt to save Johnson.
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In an explosive riposte, the [senior government] source told Sky News:
• Mr Reynolds failed at his job of protecting Downing Street staff from the spread of COVID in Number 10
• The public are right to be outraged
• One rule for them, one rule for us
• He didn't think through the consequences
• He has to be held accountable for it
Wow! That makes Mr Reynolds' position untenable, surely, assuming that astonishing attack was issued with the authority of the prime minister.
Earlier, the PM's spokesman said Mr Reynolds isn't going anywhere - an ambassador's job had been suggested - but that has all changed now. The PM and his inner circle had obviously been hoping the Reynolds email would remain secret. Bad luck!
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https://news.sky.com/story/partygate...ssure-12513335
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10-01-2022, 23:16
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Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
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Originally Posted by 1andrew1
It is serious for a UK Prime Minister to behave in such a manner. And I've not stated it is the most serious issue the world faces in my post.
Johnson banned everyone from meeting more than one other person outdoors and then attended a party himself for 40 people. The kind of party we would all have loved to have attended but instead we followed the rules.
It's a breach of trust between the public and government. Your fellow Berkshire resident gets it. I advise you to reflect on our words and reconsider your instinct to support everything that Johnson does.
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I certainly don’t support everything Boris does - he’s often embarrassing to watch and his behaviour is sometimes open to question.
However, I don’t judge Prime Ministers by such trivia, I judge them by results, as will most of the electorate when the election comes around.
By the way, it was the scientists that pushed Boris into the lockdown rules. His heart was never really in it, was it?
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10-01-2022, 23:17
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Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
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you mean Johnson via the Downing Street office throwing Martin Reynolds under the bus in attempt to save himself?
Shouldn't make Johnson a passive actor in all of this as it excuses his behaviour.
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10-01-2022, 23:26
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Re: That No.10 Christmas Party
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Originally Posted by BenMcr
you mean Johnson via the Downing Street office throwing Martin Reynolds under the bus in attempt to save himself?
Shouldn't make Johnson a passive actor in all of this as it excuses his behaviour.
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Maybe not. My point is, this will not matter at the next election. The electorate will be focussed on more important things, like who do they trust to run the economy.
If the opposition are hoping that all this fake surprise and gasping is going to prove more important than having a believable manifesto with Starmer in charge, they are in for a much bigger shock down the road.
By the way isn’t No 10 owned by the Crown and therefore exempt from these restrictions?
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